Rambling thoughts on the game, the rivalry, my fandom and the nastiness of it all.

[SeattleUte]

You have a history. "We" have nothing. You love to perpetuate this concocted story about Majerus. It's tired. It's old. It's simply untrue.

Some men need Viagra. You need to make up stories and repeat them.

I'm sorry your serious, thoughtful, lyrical musings on the Rivalry were panned by the critics.

[Portland Ute]

I'm sorry your serious, thoughtful, lyrical musings on the Rivalry were panned by the critics.

"The nobler sort of man emphasizes the good qualities in others, and does not accentuate the bad. The inferior does the reverse." - Confucious

"Men over forty are no judges of a book written in a new spirit." - Emerson

[Sleeping in EQ]

One of the things I like about the BYU-Utah rivalry is that, on some level, it isn't just about marketing.

Sure, some Utah bank has tried to cash in on the rivalry, and both schools benefit, but on a deeper level the private, conservative religioius school versus the more liberal public, state-sponsored school refuses to be completely commodified.

I can watch pro soccer and pro hockey, but I'm not as committed to those, in part because they are mostly about marketing. Outside of Yankees versus Red Sox, which is all about Jews versus Catholics, and a few other legitimate pro rivalries, most of it is marketing BS. Its designed to stir you up so you'll put money in somebody's pocket.

I watch the game with a Ute friend of mine. We subject each other to some good natured smack and enjoy the experience.

James, if you read this, your commuter school for drunken, slacker Lamanites is about to be handed its ass! Helaman's army, and the Lord God Almighty that it represents, will roll forth and fill the earth!

[PaloAltoCougar]

Majerus wound up eclipsing and annihilating Roger Reid as completely as he possibly could have.

This is a good line. BTW, in golf, I have eclipsed and annihilated Tiger Woods as completely as I possibly could have.

[YOhio]

PortlandUte, I just checked some of your posts on Ute fans. It made me realize that this thread was a satire. Well done!

[Portland Ute]

PortlandUte, I just checked some of your posts on Ute fans. It made me realize that this thread was a satire. Well done!

If you were checking up on me, then you'd notice that I have said relatively little about BYU the last 3 or 4 weeks and almost nothing during this week.

That's all pretty rare for me leading up to "the game" and during football season.

I'll be the first to admit that I was as big a part of the problem as anyone. Well, not anyone. Cougjunkie is a bigger problem than I ever was. And he does it here on a supposedly more civil forum.

All you have to go on is the past and I recognize that. I have gotten pretty emotional in the past.

Like I said, I long for civility. I can't expect it from others, but I can turn over a new leaf and change myself.

BTW, it's not that I don't want any back and forth. I think the rivalry is fun. It should be fun. I have a couple of friends that are BYU fans. We respect and like each other. We joke a bit, but it never devolves into nastiness, name-calling or physical altercations. I'm fine with the rivalry. I'm not fine with the nastiness of it.

[LA Ute]

I actually did think he was talking to you. Sorry, just being honest!

Did you find this in junkie's post too?

[Jarid in Cedar]

I am not altogether surprised at the turn this entire thread has taken.

I guess this place really isn't as different as it prides itself on being.

Welcome to Cougarboard Part II, boys.

I disagree, Port. Your post of simliar vein was well received on CB.

[YOhio]

I disagree, Port. Your post of simliar vein was well received on CB.

What's wrong with how his post was received here? I really don't get it.

He admittedly was part of the "problem," yet he's complaining about not receiving goodwill he has yet to earn. When called on it he starts pointing fingers at others and then declares that he has changed, even though a quick glance at UFN shows otherwise. On top of that he tries to collectively guilt trip CUF by declaring us CB 2.0 (where have we heard that before?).

[LA Ute]

What's wrong with how his post was received here? I really don't get it.

He admittedly was part of the "problem," yet he's complaining about not receiving goodwill he has yet to earn. When called on it he starts pointing fingers at others and then declares that he has changed, even though a quick glance at UFN shows otherwise. On top of that he tries to collectively guilt trip CUF by declaring us CB 2.0 (where have we heard that before?).

Well . . . you called Port's entire thread a satire, SU dismissed Port's posts as "navel gazing," and junkie accused Port of being one of the most "vile and hateful" posters on the other boards. All in all, a pretty heavy-handed response to someone who, on the face of his post, seemed to be trying to express how he feels about the rivalry, in a straightforward, non-confrontational way. Maybe it was a departure from his prior approach, maybe it wasn't, I don't know. But fellas, come on!

Just my observation. I may be all wet. And I am sure no one here will hesitate a nanosecond to tell me so.

[myboynoah]

Well . . . you called Port's entire thread a satire, SU dismissed Port's posts as "navel gazing," and junkie accused Port of being one of the most "vile and hateful" posters on the other boards. All in all, a pretty heavy-handed response to someone who, on the face of his post, seemed to be trying to express how he feels about the rivalry, in a straightforward, non-confrontational way. Maybe it was a departure from his prior approach, maybe it wasn't, I don't know. But fellas, come on!

Just my observation. I may be all wet. And I am sure no one here will hesitate a nanosecond to tell me so.

You are all wet. The very fact that we are having this silly converstation shows the lie in PU's constant refrain that this is nothing more than CB 2.0. Funny how we are never UFN 2.0.

PU had some nice thoughts. The imagery of attending games with his father was touching. But his history here and elsewhere will follow him. That takes time to change, if that is the intent.

Even then, I thought his post was received fairly well. Getting PAC, YO and SU to respond to one's thoughts is definitely A-list. Declare victory and move on.

[Portland Ute]

You are all wet. The very fact that we are having this silly converstation shows the lie in PU's constant refrain that this is nothing more than CB 2.0. Funny how we are never UFN 2.0.

PU had some nice thoughts. The imagery of attending games with his father was touching. But his history here and elsewhere will follow him. That takes time to change, if that is the intent.

Even then, I thought his post was received fairly well. Getting PAC, YO and SU to respond to one's thoughts is definitely A-list. Declare victory and move on.

I used "CB II" because of the numerous derogatory references that I see on this board to Cougarboard. There aren't as many to Utefans.

I'd like to file a motion to formally strike the "CB II" reference from this thread and change it to show "Utefans II." It's really 6 of 1 and a half dozen of the other.

[TripletDaddy]

I used "CB II" because of the numerous derogatory references that I see on this board to Cougarboard. There aren't as many to Utefans.

I'd like to file a motion to formally strike the "CB II" reference from this thread and change it to show "Utefans II." It's really 6 of 1 and a half dozen of the other.

Technically, this place would be Cougarboard Part 4, not Part 2. I am counting both Cougarguard and Brother_H8's website, byuofu, as an Elias of sorts for our Cougaruteforum.

For what it is worth, your post was amazing. If it were possible, I would give you a bunch of red stars.

[Portland Ute]

Technically, this place would be Cougarboard Part 4, not Part 2. I am counting both Cougarguard and Brother_H8's website, byuofu, as an Elias of sorts for our Cougaruteforum.

For what it is worth, your post was amazing. If it were possible, I would give you a bunch of red stars.

lol@the red stars comment

[Surfah]

I used "CB II" because of the numerous derogatory references that I see on this board to Cougarboard. There aren't as many to Utefans.

I'd like to file a motion to formally strike the "CB II" reference from this thread and change it to show "Utefans II." It's really 6 of 1 and a half dozen of the other.

Really the only people that reference CB anymore are those who come here after being suspended.