BYU Fans Showing Their True Colors?

[WashingtonCoug]

As a head coach, how much film is he supposed to watch? How much film do you think LaVell (aka The Master Delegator) watched?

I have no idea how much film Lavell watched and don't care. This is a completely different landscape today. Coaches are putting in way more hours than was required in Lavell's day and time.

[BlueHair]

No one has yet been able to articulate in this thread why BYU should be appreciably better than they have been the last 4 years.

World class facilities and plenty of money are a good start. BYU has been decent enough in football for long enough to be able to recruit better. Lack of talent is a coaching problem. If talent is the problem, coaches need to recruit better talent.

I don't buy the honor code bullshit. Either remove it or stop using it as a crutch. They can't have it both ways.

[WashingtonCoug]

I do want to note that I'm generally pretty quite in my frustrations with BYU. The only time you will here me complain is here and in my own living room.

[Indy Coug]

Coaches are putting in way more hours than was required in Lavell's day and time.

Really? Based on what? Do you know how laborious it was using 8MM or VHS tapes to watch film rather than digitized footage indexed by an elaborate database?

I'm not sure how working 18 hours and getting crappy sleep on an office cot gives you a leg up on someone that works 12 or 14 hours and sleeps at home. Having worked through stretches of extremely long hours, your finest moments of decision making don't come in the 13th, 14th, 15th or more hour. There is a diminishing returns principle that kicks in and at some point those returns go negative.

[Indy Coug]

World class facilities and plenty of money are a good start. BYU has been decent enough in football for long enough to be able to recruit better. Lack of talent is a coaching problem. If talent is the problem, coaches need to recruit better talent.

I don't buy the honor code bullshit. Either remove it or stop using it as a crutch. They can't have it both ways.

So where should the program be?

[WashingtonCoug]

Really? Based on what? Do you know how laborious it was using 8MM or VHS tapes to watch film rather than digitized footage indexed by an elaborate database?

I'm not sure how working 18 hours and getting crappy sleep on an office cot gives you a leg up on someone that works 12 or 14 hours and sleeps at home. Having worked through stretches of extremely long hours, your finest moments of decision making don't come in the 13th, 14th, 15th or more hour. There is a diminishing returns principle that kicks in and at some point those returns go negative.

From what Bronco has said, I'm not sure that 10 hours are being put in each day.

[Indy Coug]

From what Bronco has said, I'm not sure that 10 hours are being put in each day.

Tell me what time Bronco arrives in the morning.

[WashingtonCoug]

Tell me what time Bronco arrives in the morning.

I'm pretty sure that varies day by day.

[BlueHair]

So where should the program be?

A lot better. Boise shouldn't have better talent than us.

[Indy Coug]

A lot better. Boise shouldn't have better talent than us.

I'm glad you were so specific.

[Hallelujah]

As a casual observer, it seems odd that the BYU coaching staff gets so worked up publicly about the fans. How hard is it to express your displeasure behind closed doors ?

Most coaches seem to parrot the 'we have the greatest fans in the world' line without second thought whether they believe it or not. Yet Bronco's integrity or irritation seem to limit his ability to simply state this phrase publicly.

Good point. They are as overly sensitive as the fans they seem to criticize on a regular basis.

It doesn't help the fan base when you are recruiting 5'6" corners that get beat or penalized regularly. But it is what it is. BYU fans need to understand they will never be able to recruit the top 'athletes' because of the honor code.

[Hallelujah]

Beating the #3 team in your opener. Just a guess.

And Bronco talking perfection and national championship and Heisman for Hall.

Then they shouldn't be surprised when the fans get impatient.

[Hallelujah]

10 wins with a sophomore starting QB in 2007.

10 wins the next season.

Is it entirely unreasonable to expect great things in 2009 from a team with a third-year starting QB who won 10 games as a sophomore? Combine that with a third-year starting running back who is a complete stud and an NFL talent in Pitta, and the skill positions alone were enough of a reason to expect BYU's offense could keep them in any game they played in 2009.

The defense can be terrible, and they certainly deserve their share of the blame, but the great offenses of BYU old could score with the best of them.

WIth the exception of CSU, EVERY team has scored more against TCU than BYU. And it was on BYU's home field. That would be disconcerting as a BYU fan.

[Jarid in Cedar]

:bomb::anger::fight: :igiveup:

This thread has had it all!

[Hallelujah]

I agree with this. If I don't hear the comments coming from Bronco about the fans, I'm probably OK with where the program is going. I'm disappointed that we didn't play better (or show up) against TCU and FSU, but it's only one season. It's when I hear Bronco talk about the fans that really bugs me. Obviously we've seen other comments coming from Bronco in the same manner. Give it a break! Some fans are going to complain even if the team wins a National Championship and doesn't the next year.

I still don't think Bronco loves football like he needs to. On the radio this morning Ben Criddle talked about missing his own brother's wedding so that he could practice with the team. Afterward rather than hanging out with the family, he stayed and watched film. Graham Watson reported that when Gary Patterson gets on the bus after a game, he is watching film for the next game. Bronco doesn't start watching film until the next week. And from listening to some of his gaffs in talking about opponents players during mid week conferences I wonder how much film he really watches.

Hasn't he said he doesn't concern himself with the upcoming competition as long as BYU can execute, it doesn't matter who's names are on the jerseys. Does that mean they don't change their game plan from week to week? Not sure what that means.