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  • Originally posted by mUUser View Post
    This is the one game I'll be able to attend this year, and I agree with you. TCU is a legitimate top-10 contender, and Utah isn't a very good 7-1 team. While I am higher on the defense than you, I'll be surprised if Utah can put up 10 points on TCU in Ft. Worth. I don't expect this game to be within 17 points.

    Having said that, I think KW has done a tremendous job this year eeking out victories with an offense that seems to just limp along. Honestly, this team has no business being 7-1 & ranked #14, yet there we are. It helps we haven't played anyone of note yet (except the Oregon loss, of course.)
    I think the fact that we stayed within a TD of Oregon on their home field is quite surprising in retrospect considering how they've completely dismantled other top 15 teams there this season. I'm not taking away a "poppinga" victory, by any means. However, I do think it is a credit to the coaching staff. I don't think Utah is any more talented than USC. Then again, maybe they are and I am guilty of buying into the BCS/ESPN/USC/Florida/Texas/ND/OSU hype.

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    • Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
      However, I do think it is a credit to the coaching staff.

      As you may remember from Utefans.net, I think Meyer is the best coach in college football, and take stock in the fact he genuinely believes KW to be one of the very best coaches in the game today. I agree. We're incredibly fortunate to have him guiding Utah's program. He hasn't peaked -- not by a long shot.

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      • Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
        You guys keep beating the drum that Utah won last year. I'm not sure where I've disputed that.
        http://www.cougaruteforum.com/poll.p...lts&pollid=282
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        • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
          This is because BYU fans are all coming forth and saying utah will get creamed based on their own parochial experiences. This is typical of the BYU fanbase, by the way.
          Five 10 win seasons up on the hill and BYU fans are projecting?...I get it. All those decades of losing to the other 8 or so teams in the conference meant nothing, it was losing to BYU that mattered, right?

          Then is losing to BYU why the Utes didn't win an outright conference championship for 50 years leading up to the Urban revival? I just want to get my facts straight here...
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          • Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
            Five 10 win seasons up on the hill and BYU fans are projecting?...I get it. All those decades of losing to the other 8 or so teams in the conference meant nothing, it was losing to BYU that mattered, right?

            Then is losing to BYU why the Utes didn't win an outright conference championship for 50 years leading up to the Urban revival? I just want to get my facts straight here...
            Yawn.
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            • Killer, admittedly, take a branch of the LaVelle tree, eliminate all the nonsense like missions, Honor Code, and firesides, and you tend to have the makings of a very good opr great coach. So what?
              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

              --Jonathan Swift

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              • Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                Five 10 win seasons up on the hill and BYU fans are projecting?...I get it. All those decades of losing to the other 8 or so teams in the conference meant nothing, it was losing to BYU that mattered, right?

                Then is losing to BYU why the Utes didn't win an outright conference championship for 50 years leading up to the Urban revival? I just want to get my facts straight here...
                Sometimes football programs have dry spells. BYU won its first outright conference champsionship in 1966. (I remember, although I was only a young kid.) That was after, what, 75 years of playing football?

                Fortunately for the Utes, we all have to live in the present, and it does appear that the BYU's days of beating up on everyone in sight may well be over. In fact, they have been over since about 1990. I may be off by a year or two.
                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                ― W.H. Auden


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                • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  Sometimes football programs have dry spells. BYU won its first outright conference champsionship in 1966. (I remember, although I was only a young kid.) That was after, what, 75 years of playing football?

                  Fortunately for the Utes, we all have to live in the present, and it does appear that the BYU's days of beating up on everyone in sight may well be over. In fact, they have been over since about 1990. I may be off by a year or two.
                  I think BYU is going to beat up on people occasionally. It's just not going to be every year for 10 years straight like it was in the late 70's and 80's.

                  BYU will have a year here or there where they have a special team. Like 1996 or 1984. I would have thought that 2008 would have been that year since it sppears it's every 12 years. Maybe it skipped one iteration and we'll see it in 2020. Maybe sooner.

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                  • I should have gone with the current title all along. I blew it. Also, I wanted to try out the functionality Il Padrino told me about.
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • Il Pad, the new title only shows up on the index if the mods want it to.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        Killer, admittedly, take a branch of the LaVelle tree, eliminate all the nonsense like missions, Honor Code, and firesides, and you tend to have the makings of a very good opr great coach. So what?
                        So nothing. Just a compliment to the U of U program. If I could convince BYU to go that way I would. Eliminate the Honor Code, firesides, missions etc. and fill the staff with Edwards coaching progeny and BYU starts winning National Championships again.

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                        • Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
                          So nothing. Just a compliment to the U of U program. If I could convince BYU to go that way I would. Eliminate the Honor Code, firesides, missions etc. and fill the staff with Edwards coaching progeny and BYU starts winning National Championships again.
                          I have repeatedly given Lavelle Edwards a lot of credit. I think Whit has the perfect formula; he has graphed Lavelle DNA into a great secular university. I have great hopes also for Sarkisian at my adopted team.
                          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                          --Jonathan Swift

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                          • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            I have repeatedly given Lavelle Edwards a lot of credit. I think Whit has the perfect formula; he has graphed Lavelle DNA into a great secular university. I have great hopes also for Sarkisian at my adopted team.
                            I think UW will become a Pac-10 power. I think there is a lot of evidence supporting the position that playing or coaching at BYU from '76-'96 (maybe longer either direction) was a great way to become an amazing coach.

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                            • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                              Il Pad, the new title only shows up on the index if the mods want it to.
                              Hmmm... the edit seems to have worked, as I can see that you've corrected the spelling of Wynn's name.

                              Did the mods change it for you?
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                              • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                                Hmmm... the edit seems to have worked, as I can see that you've corrected the spelling of Wynn's name.

                                Did the mods change it for you?
                                UtahDan. Turns out he's the only Ute mod.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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