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  • Non Sequitur
    Where did I put my bodkin
    • Nov 2008
    • 5773

    #16
    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    I think Bronco could have more success elsewhere. His hands are tied by the HC (combined with the actual enforcement of the HC). For selfish reasons, I want Bronco to stay, but he could excel at a number of different programs around the country.
    Unless his personality is a complete invention, I honestly don't think Bronco can have more success elsewhere. He would get eaten alive in a big time program where football is first and nobody cares whether your middle linebacker is an Eagle Scout.
    "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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    • DU Ute
      RIP CUF
      • Dec 2008
      • 7393

      #17
      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
      Chamberlain vs. Churchill


      I don't get it.
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      • ERCougar
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 10978

        #18
        Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
        Unless his personality is a complete invention, I honestly don't think Bronco can have more success elsewhere. He would get eaten alive in a big time program where football is first and nobody cares whether your middle linebacker is an Eagle Scout.
        I can't imagine how much a frustration the Bronco front (and I do think it's partially a front) must be to non-LDS BYU fans. Heck, he drives us Mormons crazy some times.

        To bring it back to the comparison...
        I'm frustrated at the potential that's being wasted. Bronco is an absolute stud for his age and I would think that kind of thing would be inspiring to college athletes. I would love to see Kyle drag his fat butt up to the Y. How would it be to be coached by a fiery guy who could flatten you if he wanted to?
        At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
        -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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        • landpoke
          Never once baby snatched
          • Nov 2008
          • 4183

          #19
          Originally posted by cowboy View Post
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          • Color Me Badd Fan
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 12519

            #20
            Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
            Unless his personality is a complete invention, I honestly don't think Bronco can have more success elsewhere. He would get eaten alive in a big time program where football is first and nobody cares whether your middle linebacker is an Eagle Scout.
            I was agreeing with Brian in that I think a lot of the fireside stuff is a show to appease both the bosses and the fans. I don't think Bronco would do that at another program.
            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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            • WashingtonCoug
              Monsters like me
              • Jan 2009
              • 1489

              #21
              Could it be that Kyle just loves his players more than Bronco?
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              • UteStar
                Sexiest Poster in Town
                • Nov 2008
                • 2419

                #22
                Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                Just to avoid a potential thread diversion, I was more interested in comparing/contrasting Bronco and Kyle than a scrutiny of just one or the other.
                Bronco--I think he is the perfect coach for BYU. His focus is on living the standards of the church. I think that even if he was 7-5 or 8-4 every year, the would stay on as coach unless the boosters just pushed too much. I think his greatest asset is that he is methodical and stays the course. This can be a good thing when you are really good because you don't over-react to mistakes or tough losses. Its a bad thing when you are not willing to adjust when the wheels come off once in a while. I also think he expects a lot of his players which is a good thing. I don't think you will ever see a 13-0 team out of him, but I don't think you will ever see a 4-8 season out of him as he is just too steady.

                Kyle--A ton of emotion. That is a good thing when you are trying to get up for a bigtime team and the players rally around that and perform...but it is a bad thing because the players sometime don't get up for lesser opponents because they have heard it before from Kyle. Trusts his assistants but will step in their world when needed...I get the sense that during the season, he lets his assistants do their thing...but for big games, I think he is more hands on.

                Anyway, I think both are very good coaches...and I wouldn't be surprised to see them still at their schools in 10 years.

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                • SeattleUte
                  Faith crisis consultant
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 20837

                  #23
                  Originally posted by UteStar View Post
                  I wouldn't be surprised to see them still at their schools in 10 years.
                  We can only hope.
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                  • ERCougar
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10978

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    We can only hope.
                    I wonder about Kyle's future. I know he's happy at Utah, but do you really see him turning down a huge offer from a big school?
                    At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                    -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                    • SeattleUte
                      Faith crisis consultant
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 20837

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                      I wonder about Kyle's future. I know he's happy at Utah, but do you really see him turning down a huge offer from a big school?
                      Not necessarily. I don't really think he'd go to even a Colorado or a Washington. But if ND or Texas or USC or like school came calling...I'd be surprised if he stayed. He's a great coach who has built this program ground up. (I think the only reason Majerus stayed is that, because of his quirks, he never got an offer from a truly top echelon program.) Maybe he'd go pro too.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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                      • WashingtonCoug
                        Monsters like me
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1489

                        #26
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        Not necessarily. I don't really think he'd go to even a Colorado or a Washington. But if ND or Texas or USC or like school came calling...I'd be surprised if he stayed. He's a great coach who has built this program ground up. (I think the only reason Majerus stayed is that, because of his quirks, he never got an offer from a truly top echelon program.) Maybe he'd go pro too.
                        I really can see Whittingham as a professional coach. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a shot in the NFL if Utah continues to win. Defense wins on all levels and that is what Whittingham knows best.
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                        • SeattleUte
                          Faith crisis consultant
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 20837

                          #27
                          Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View Post
                          I really can see Whittingham as a professional coach. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a shot in the NFL if Utah continues to win. Defense wins on all levels and that is what Whittingham knows best.
                          Plus he grew up amid the pro football culture and industry.
                          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                          --Jonathan Swift

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                          • dut99002
                            Wednesday's Child
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 93

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                            I wonder about Kyle's future. I know he's happy at Utah, but do you really see him turning down a huge offer from a big school?
                            Personally, I think that should the right offer come he'd seriously consider leaving. I do think that he loves the U of U (and he is treated like a king there), but if the pursuing program was big enough (a Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, Penn State, etc.) the U could lose him. I think that he'd need a few more years of strong showings before he'd get seriously considered though.

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #29
                              Right now the marquee programs that could have legitimate job openings in the foreseeable future:

                              Florida State
                              Penn State
                              Notre Dame

                              Texas, Florida, SC, Oklahoma....those schools aren't looking to replace their coaches, there is no coaching controversy, and those coaches aren't going anywhere.

                              Wouldn't it be wild if Kyle went off to Florida State, with Urban down the road in Gainesville? The U sending off all these coaches to the State of Florida.

                              I don't see Bronco fielding any great offers right now. If Bronco were to receive an offer, it would be a small step-up (BCS conference), but a lower rung school within that conferece.......maybe an Arizona or Iowa State type school. No football powerhouse....even an also-ran like Washington, would look at Bronco right now. And I like Washington. I am just saying that at one time, they were the shiz and still retain that Husky Pride. Schools that are currently struggling but were once players (Texas A&M, Nebraska, Washington, etc...) will want a bigger name than Bronco.
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                              • SeattleUte
                                Faith crisis consultant
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 20837

                                #30
                                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                                Right now the marquee programs that could have legitimate job openings in the foreseeable future:

                                Florida State
                                Penn State
                                Notre Dame

                                Texas, Florida, SC, Oklahoma....those schools aren't looking to replace their coaches, there is no coaching controversy, and those coaches aren't going anywhere.

                                Wouldn't it be wild if Kyle went off to Florida State, with Urban down the road in Gainesville? The U sending off all these coaches to the State of Florida.

                                I don't see Bronco fielding any great offers right now. If Bronco were to receive an offer, it would be a small step-up (BCS conference), but a lower rung school within that conferece.......maybe an Arizona or Iowa State type school. No football powerhouse....even an also-ran like Washington, would look at Bronco right now. And I like Washington. I am just saying that at one time, they were the shiz and still retain that Husky Pride. Schools that are currently struggling but were once players (Texas A&M, Nebraska, Washington, etc...) will want a bigger name than Bronco.
                                Kyle would be a great fit for ND. Family man, church goer, spotless record in terms of ethics, etc. His dad's family is from back there.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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