2012-13 NFL Postseason Thread

[Color Me Badd Fan]

But if you just hold the receiver at the LOS, you won't have to worry about the PI on a deep ball. And yes, the clock stops, but some time does run off the clock before it stops, correct? I think that was the idea the caller was probably getting at.

That would work a couple times until Matt Ryan just starts spiking the ball and only taking 2 seconds off the clock for every snap and getting five yards every time. Maybe he would have had enough time to get into field goal range, maybe not.

Additionally, this strategy could be employed exactly in one season because in the offseason the rules would be amended to add the time back on the clock when teams do this.

[falafel]

That would work a couple times until Matt Ryan just starts spiking the ball and only taking 2 seconds off the clock for every snap and getting five yards every time. Maybe he would have had enough time to get into field goal range, maybe not.

Additionally, this strategy could be employed exactly in one season because in the offseason the rules would be amended to add the time back on the clock when teams do this.

He can't spike the ball before the penalty is called, right? Otherwise he's just wasting downs and not getting the penalty yards.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

I'd have to also look at the rulebook, but I wouldn't be surprised if that would be grounds for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. If you're tackling every receiver at the line of scrimmage, I figure the referee would look quite liberally at calling that penalty if there was any way he could do it.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

He can't spike the ball before the penalty is called, right? Otherwise he's just wasting downs and not getting the penalty yards.

If you're tackling guys at the line of scrimmage, it won't take long for the penalty to be called, especially once they did it a couple times. It would become pretty apparent to Ryan what the strategy was.

Additionally, I think the refs would figure out how to call this:

"Unsportsmanlike Conduct: Any act contrary to the generally understood principles of sportsmanship."

The strategy has never employed and most likely there's a reason behind it.

[SeattleUte]

If you're tackling guys at the line of scrimmage, it won't take long for the penalty to be called, especially once they did it a couple times. It would become pretty apparent to Ryan what the strategy was.

Additionally, I think the refs would figure out how to call this:

"Unsportsmanlike Conduct: Any act contrary to the generally understood principles of sportsmanship."

The strategy has never employed and most likely there's a reason behind it.

The thing is, though, Atlanta only had 31 seconds. by the time the refs figured it out there'd be 10 seconds left. Naturally, they'd change the rules next year, but the hawks wouldn't care this year.

[MarkGrace]

What the Hawks really should have done was not give up 40 yards in two plays.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

The thing is, though, Atlanta only had 31 seconds. by the time the refs figured it out there'd be 10 seconds left. Naturally, they'd change the rules next year, but the hawks wouldn't care this year.

You don't want to be the coach to try that scheme and then get penalized 15 yards for it. I think it would have worked for one play and if the same blatant thing happens again (basically tackling guys at the line of scrimmage), then I could see a ref flagging them for 15 yards on that second play and there would have probably still been 15-20 seconds on the clock. 20 yards of penalties puts the Falcons near the 50 yard line with two timeouts left.

Plus, there may be some obscure corner of the NFL rulebook that may address this that would enable refs to put the time from the previous play back on the clock in circumstances such as this.

[MartyFunkhouser]

49ers 5 point favorites on the road. If I was a betting man, it would be an easy call to put money on the 49ers. I don't expect the Falcons to be in the game after the half. It is probably about 24-7 at the half, with the 49ers winning somewhere around 35-14. It won't be close.

I would be fine if Chip Kelly wanted to go to the NFL to coach the Falcons.

[Mormon Red Death]

49ers 5 point favorites on the road. If I was a betting man, it would be an easy call to put money on the 49ers. I don't expect the Falcons to be in the game after the half. It is probably about 24-7 at the half, with the 49ers winning somewhere around 35-14. It won't be close.

I would be fine if Chip Kelly wanted to go to the NFL to coach the Falcons.

All the sharps were pouncing on the line @ +4... @x +5 even more sharp money must be coming in. This however won't steady the public tide going after san fran (in the playoffs the public bets a lot more than the sharps)

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[Color Me Badd Fan]

All the sharps were pouncing on the line @ +4... @x +5 even more sharp money must be coming in. This however won't steady the public tide going after san fran (in the playoffs the public bets a lot more than the sharps)

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Where's the money going in that Pats v. Ravens game? I thought that line was waaaay too high. Then again, the Ravens will be exhausted after that Denver game (but they do have one more day to rest). The 49ers got torched in Seattle because of that game a week before in New England (that, and Justin Smith was out). While the Seahawks are the type of team that can push people around, the Pats aren't that type of team.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Apparently the Falcons are now the biggest home underdogs for any #1 seed since they expanded the playoffs to 5 teams per conference in 1978. No wonder the sharps are putting money down on the Falcons.

[smokymountainrain]

Apparently the Falcons are now the biggest home underdogs for any #1 seed since they expanded the playoffs to 5 teams per conference in 1978. No wonder the sharps are putting money down on the Falcons.

Playing against a 2nd year player, first year starter who has only started half the games. Yeah, smart money is on the Falcons to cover at home, if not win outright.

[Northwestcoug]

You just don't see receivers slip behind DBs with less than a minute to go when the team trying to score doesn't have a timeout. Incredible.

From TMQ:

This was one of the worst downs any team has ever staged at any level of the sport. The Denver secondary badly botched the play; defensive coordinator Jack del Rio badly botched the play. Del Rio could have called timeout to make sure his charges understood to keep everything in front of them.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Playing against a 2nd year player, first year starter who has only started half the games. Yeah, smart money is on the Falcons to cover at home, if not win outright.

I wouldn't say the smart money is on the Falcons to win outright. It seems like the focus last week was whether a) Justin Smith was healthy and b) would the Niners be able to contain Aaron Rodgers. I said the question people should be asking was whether the Packers' D would be able to contain the Niners offense. Green Bay doesn't have an offense that chews up the clock, San Francisco does. When San Francisco can run its offense, they limit the snaps for the opposing offense. For how effective their offenses still are, it's a luxury that Green Bay, New Orleans and New England don't have. Part of their offensive success is the no-huddle/hurry-up which allows them to take advantage of a confused defense. The San Francisco offense just beats the hell out of you and gains 6 yards a play (on average), and then sits on the ball until the end up the play clock.

So, it's the same question again -- does Atlanta have the defense to stop San Francisco's offense from dominating time of possession? I don't think so. But I also think that Atlanta has one of the more balanced offenses in the league and they have the ability to keep the ball out of San Francisco's offense's hands (more so than Green Bay certainly). Unlike Atlanta's defense, San Francisco's defense will better be able to get quick stops at least at times.

I gave several reasons why I thought Atlanta would win last week -- home field, 10 AM PST start time, Seattle coming off a semi-tough win against the Redskins, the bye, everyone questioning their manhood -- a lot of that aren't based on fundamentals. On a neutral field, neutral starting time, etc. Seattle wins that game 9 times out of 10. Atlanta doesn't have a lot of that going for them this time. They won a playoff game, the manhood questioning is subsiding to a certain extent, a more normal start time (noon PST), not coming off a bye and they're coming off a really tough win. I wouldn't touch that 5 point spread and still go with San Francisco, but a 28-24 type game is a strong possibility with Atlanta scoring a cheapee touchdown at the end of the game.

[Mormon Red Death]

Where's the money going in that Pats v. Ravens game? I thought that line was waaaay too high. Then again, the Ravens will be exhausted after that Denver game (but they do have one more day to rest). The 49ers got torched in Seattle because of that game a week before in New England (that, and Justin Smith was out). While the Seahawks are the type of team that can push people around, the Pats aren't that type of team.

The oddsmakers made the line on the ravens really high to offset the ton of money that will come on the pats on Sunday right after the nfc champ game ends. The line should move to 7.5 by Sunday morning.

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