Official 49ers Thread

[Color Me Badd Fan]

They've still got another 21 left to go. When the 49ers traded AJ Jenkins for Jon Baldwin, that made Collie's situation pretty bleak, especially because they traded for a WR. Jenkins has above average measurables, so SF is inclined to give him more than a quick look. With Patton looking like he can play this year, it makes Collie making the cut a long shot, especially since he doesn't provide the Special Teams boost covering kicks or returning kicks (at least not that he has proven at the NFL level) like Hawkins or Osgood does. Which is sad, I really wanted to see Collie play in SF. Maybe he catches on in KC with Andy Reid.

I think you meant Baldwin has above average measurables.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Baldwin after Sunday's preseason game. In fact, I'm more optimistic about the WR corps in general than I was at the start of last year. Just recall that Crabtree was still kind of a POS at the beginning of last season and the only meaningful additions were Mario Manningham and an arthritic Randy Moss. Jenkins was already disappointing before the regular season started. Manningham was a nice addition for sure, but the rest were totally pedestrian.

This year we know Crabtree is good so his injury seems to be a huge negative. Last year at the beginning of the year we would have said "meh." But the additions this year have been much more substantial -- Anquan Boldin, Quinton Patton, Vance McDonald (a TE who looks really good) and Baldwin who has shown a lot more than AJ Jenkins ever did.

[Sizzle]

I think you meant Baldwin has above average measurables.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Baldwin after Sunday's preseason game. In fact, I'm more optimistic about the WR corps in general than I was at the start of last year. Just recall that Crabtree was still kind of a POS at the beginning of last season and the only meaningful additions were Mario Manningham and an arthritic Randy Moss. Jenkins was already disappointing before the regular season started. Manningham was a nice addition for sure, but the rest were totally pedestrian.

This year we know Crabtree is good so his injury seems to be a huge negative. Last year at the beginning of the year we would have said "meh." But the additions this year have been much more substantial -- Anquan Boldin, Quinton Patton, Vance McDonald (a TE who looks really good) and Baldwin who has shown a lot more than AJ Jenkins ever did.

Yes, Baldwin, not Jenkins.

It really is too bad Crabtree got hurt. I was excited to see him continue to develop the rep with Kaep. Maybe long term this helps both in terms of getting other guys comfortable and diminishing his contract value. He hasn't lived up to a top 10 pick, but he hasn't been a bust by any stretch either.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

What a horrible loss. I expected a loss, but something along the lines of 24-17. Fortunately, we've seen time and again teams beat opponents that they lost to earlier in the year and sometimes in humiliating fashion. The first example that comes to mind is Baltimore vs. Denver last year in the playoffs. The total yards tell the story of that game last night -- 49ers- 207 total yards, Seattle- 290, while the turnovers tell you the margin of the score, 5 to 1 in favor of Seattle.

My observations:

1. The 49ers have a real problem at WR. While Boldin is fine by himself, he's not going to be fine when he faces a good secondary. The reason for that is the 49ers right now have NO ONE at #2 or #3. Kyle Williams has not proven to be a quality starter and it's time to give Quinton Patton more snaps. Simply put, the team has to win the games they should win (and last night's game was not a game I expected them to win) while they wait for Manningham and Crabtree to come back.

2. Unless Joe Looney got in on a few special teams plays, you know how many snaps were played by the 2012 draft class last night? ZERO. You can't eff around and pick guys in the first round the rest of the league has graded as a fourth round pick. What was the problem that the Niners had last year? Lack of depth along the d-line and lack of a premium CB. You know who was available at the end of the 1st round in 2012? Janoris Jenkins. A shitty 2012 draft absolutely made the difference between winning and losing the Super Bowl.

3. The 49ers traded away quality depth for 7th round picks before the season started. Most notably they traded away two OLBs. The salary purge was very little. I get the feeling management is obsessed with compiling 7th round draft picks to the detriment of winning THIS YEAR.

4. Frank Gore might be getting old. The team did not put Marcus Lattimore on the IR, but they have been repeatedly saying that this is a "redshirt" year for him. They may want to rethink that. As far as I understand it, they can activate a guy as late as week 12. The PUP list lasts for six weeks and then they give him another six weeks to practice. So, that's another 10 weeks and it will have been something like 14 months of rehab for Lattimore. Kendall Hunter and LaMichael James are not every down backs, though together they might not be that bad.

Now for the positives:

1. Despite turning over the ball five times, the defense largely held Seattle's offense. I'm still feeling pretty good about the defense. They forced Russell Wilson into having a subpar night and they held Lynch to 3.5 yards per carry.

2. The pass rush looked good.

3. The Niners have their 1st and 3rd toughest games out of the way. As I've mentioned before, they have a favorable home/away combo. I went into that game last night about 75% sure it was a loss. That's Seattle's Super Bowl and they're a very good team. I don't think one should chalk it up as something that necessary portends the rest of the season. I'm still convinced they're going to start 2-2 and then rattle off four straight to go 6-2 through the first eight games. I think they'll also go 6-2 in the back half of the season. Obviously the key game now is when Seattle travels to San Francisco. I don't think there's going to be another 5 to 1 turnover ratio and Seattle went 3-5 on the road last year.

[cougjunkie]

What a horrible loss. I expected a loss, but something along the lines of 24-17. Fortunately, we've seen time and again teams beat opponents that they lost to earlier in the year and sometimes in humiliating fashion. The first example that comes to mind is Baltimore vs. Denver last year in the playoffs. The total yards tell the story of that game last night -- 49ers- 207 total yards, Seattle- 290, while the turnovers tell you the margin of the score, 5 to 1 in favor of Seattle.

My observations:

1. The 49ers have a real problem at WR. While Boldin is fine by himself, he's not going to be fine when he faces a good secondary. The reason for that is the 49ers right now have NO ONE at #2 or #3. Kyle Williams has not proven to be a quality starter and it's time to give Quinton Patton more snaps. Simply put, the team has to win the games they should win (and last night's game was not a game I expected them to win) while they wait for Manningham and Crabtree to come back.

2. Unless Joe Looney got in on a few special teams plays, you know how many snaps were played by the 2012 draft class last night? ZERO. You can't eff around and pick guys in the first round the rest of the league has graded as a fourth round pick. What was the problem that the Niners had last year? Lack of depth along the d-line and lack of a premium CB. You know who was available at the end of the 1st round in 2012? Janoris Jenkins. A shitty 2012 draft absolutely made the difference between winning and losing the Super Bowl.

3. The 49ers traded away quality depth for 7th round picks before the season started. Most notably they traded away two OLBs. The salary purge was very little. I get the feeling management is obsessed with compiling 7th round draft picks to the detriment of winning THIS YEAR.

4. Frank Gore might be getting old. The team did not put Marcus Lattimore on the IR, but they have been repeatedly saying that this is a "redshirt" year for him. They may want to rethink that. As far as I understand it, they can activate a guy as late as week 12. The PUP list lasts for six weeks and then they give him another six weeks to practice. So, that's another 10 weeks and it will have been something like 14 months of rehab for Lattimore. Kendall Hunter and LaMichael James are not every down backs, though together they might not be that bad.

Now for the positives:

1. Despite turning over the ball five times, the defense largely held Seattle's offense. I'm still feeling pretty good about the defense. They forced Russell Wilson into having a subpar night and they held Lynch to 3.5 yards per carry.

2. The pass rush looked good.

3. The Niners have their 1st and 3rd toughest games out of the way. As I've mentioned before, they have a favorable home/away combo. I went into that game last night about 75% sure it was a loss. That's Seattle's Super Bowl and they're a very good team. I don't think one should chalk it up as something that necessary portends the rest of the season. I'm still convinced they're going to start 2-2 and then rattle off four straight to go 6-2 through the first eight games. I think they'll also go 6-2 in the back half of the season. Obviously the key game now is when Seattle travels to San Francisco. I don't think there's going to be another 5 to 1 turnover ratio and Seattle went 3-5 on the road last year.

It was a few short weeks ago you were praising the niners front office. Amazing what one lopsided loss can do.

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[Color Me Badd Fan]

I've always ripped on them for that 2012 draft. I do commend them on excellent 2011 and 2013 drafts.

[Sizzle]

Aldon Smith arrested at 7 am this morning under the suspicion of DUI. Dude is talented, but man, he has been a knucklehead.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Aldon Smith arrested at 7 am this morning under the suspicion of DUI. Dude is talented, but man, he has been a knucklehead.

Can't wait to hear Harbaugh's comments. I'm sure he'll say this will take Smith a long time to recover from.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Aldon Smith arrested at 7 am this morning under the suspicion of DUI. Dude is talented, but man, he has been a knucklehead.

Trading away Haralson for a 7th round pick, who's starting for the Saints now, looks even worse now than it did at the time. The front office wasnt content with how much depth they had stripped out after that move, so they then traded Cam Johnson for another 7th round pick.

[Walter Sobchak]

Obviously the key game now is when Seattle travels to San Francisco.

I hope 49ers fans are more sportsmanlike than Seahawks fans and keep the volume down during that game.

Unsportsmanlike conduct in Seattle
Was anyone else appalled by the unsportsmanlike conduct of the Seattle Seahawks and their fans, juiced on noise, which surely creates as big an advantage over an opponent as any performance enhancing drug and which, to their shame, NFL officials turn the same blind eye they have to concussions and drugs ("Seattle states case loudly, clearly in rout," Sports, Sept. 16)?

It would be simple to fix. Seahawks players and managers would ask their fans to cease and desist, and the NFL would implement a new rule: The visiting team may stop the game when fan noise is greater than a specified decibel level, and should this rule be violated in more than three games, no home games will be played at the offending field for the rest of the season, including playoff games. Things would quiet down.

At a time when the world seems sour, sports give us a place of joy, community and hope, and to have it spoiled is a bigger loss than it seems on the surface.

Judy Spelman, Rich Schiller,

Point Reyes Station

[cougjunkie]

Looks like Smith was booked for marijuana possession as well. Smart guy.

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[Sizzle]

Well this weekend sucked. I'm at least glad I didn't watch the game. Deleted from my DVR when I saw the score.

[Donuthole]

Well this weekend sucked. I'm at least glad I didn't watch the game. Deleted from my DVR when I saw the score.

Lol. I was waiting for some hard-hitting analysis from you or CMBF, and this is what I get? I know exactly how you feel, though. I've deleted unwatched Jazz games before. Sometimes, as much as you'd like to analyze things, you just can't punish yourself like that. I think the football gods frowned upon SF allowing Smith to play one last game before getting help.

FTR, I didn't think the Niners were as good as they looked for the last half of last year, and I don't think they're as bad as they've looked in the last two weeks.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

"League officials confirmed to ESPN that under the collective bargaining agreement and the league's substance-abuse policy, the 49ers could not suspend Smith. Even though commissioner Roger Goodell has emphatically stressed that DUI violations are high-level concerns, he also cannot suspend Smith under the personal conduct policy because the most recent case still must be adjudicated."

The police department I believe also clarified that no marijuana was found in Smith's possession as had been reported by some outlets. I think Smith seeking treatment and missing this week's game is his, and/or the team's, way of hoping to avoid a heavy hammer from Goodell later in the year.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

It's reprehensible that they played Aldon Smith on Sunday. They could have benched him the whole game. They deactivated a guy last year for the same thing that Smith did. What a shitty message to send to the rest of the team.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Aldon Smith, Vernon Davis and Patrick Willis are all out tonight -- at least Vernon Davis and Willis are questionable.

Time to think about tanking for Clowney/Bridgewater. Good hell, what a disaster.