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  • #1

    My analysis of Utah Basketball

    I've watched every game that has been televised so here are my thoughts.

    Neville is actually playing well. Problem is only Drca and Greene can feed the ball to him in the post.

    If Carlon brown could develop a jump shot he would play in the NBA. I take that back. If carlon brown developed a Jump shot he would be Bryant Markson who was a very good player.

    Bringing Greene off the bench is a good idea. Basically as Greene goes so does this Utah team. If he is lighting it up they win. If he isnt shooting or is having a bad night they lose.

    Its clear Drca can be a really good player. Its too bad he got hurt Idaho st or they would have won that game. I think they beat CAL if he is playing as well.

    Foul shots are very important to this team. Shooting poorly from the line absolutely killed this team last year and already is responsible for the worst loss in program history (SW baptist).

    Tillie is an enigma. I wish he could develop a low post move. No one in the conference would be able to guard him if he could oh well c'est la vie

    The young guys tavita and the kid from Kansas. I think they have bright futures up on the hill. This team will be 19-11 and go to the NIT
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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    My analysis: They suck.
    Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
      My analysis: They suck.
      thankfully sucking in the mwc will be good enough for 3rd or fourth place
      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

      "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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      • #4
        This team is really all over the map...and I honestly think that the only prediction that can be made about the Utes is that thee is no telling how they will finish this year. There are flashes, but they are few and far between...as I've said all along, it is going to take a lot of work to undo everything that was done in Ricks last year and Giac's tenure.

        If Boylen doesn't have this team in the dance by year four, get ready for the Alex Jensen era at Utah.
        "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

        Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
          This team is really all over the map...and I honestly think that the only prediction that can be made about the Utes is that thee is no telling how they will finish this year. There are flashes, but they are few and far between...as I've said all along, it is going to take a lot of work to undo everything that was done in Ricks last year and Giac's tenure.

          If Boylen doesn't have this team in the dance by year four, get ready for the Alex Jensen era at Utah.
          Is Smith with Majerus in St. Louis? What is his position? Would he seriously be ready for the HC position?
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
            Is Smith with Majerus in St. Louis? What is his position? Would he seriously be ready for the HC position?
            I think you mean Jensen.

            Yes, Alex is one of Majerus' assistant. He's a very smart player - Majerus has stated that he's the smartest basketball player he ever coached - and after 4 years working with the fat man, he may be ready to go.

            I'm not ready to forget about Boylen for a few more years. He's got a lot of work to do to de-Giacolize the Utes.
            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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            • #7
              Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
              I think you mean Jensen.

              Yes, Alex is one of Majerus' assistant. He's a very smart player - Majerus has stated that he's the smartest basketball player he ever coached - and after 4 years working with the fat man, he may be ready to go.

              I'm not ready to forget about Boylen for a few more years. He's got a lot of work to do to de-Giacolize the Utes.
              I'm old, I get my Alexes mixed up.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                I'm old, I get my Alexes mixed up.
                No worries. All zoobs look alike to me.
                "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                • #9
                  When you have 7 mins left in the half and only have 2 FG's to your credit........even if it's against the #5 ranked team in the country who played most of the 1st half without their best player.....I'm sorry...but you suck and suck bad.

                  I'm just not seeing much that shows me Boylen has what it takes to be a Head Guy.

                  He's toned down the histrionics quite a bit this year,,,but he still has a roster full of players soft as charmin and lacking in talent.

                  SU's rationale that Boylen has recruited better than Rose is total horseshit and makes about as much sense as the BYU fans who keep on claiming recruiting victories every year in football, but when you only beat your rival 2 times in 7 years........I'm just sayin....

                  I'll say this...the problem is your bball team is going to suck even worse next year....and if in a Bball coaches 3rd year he doesn't have a team with 20 wins and competing for a MWC Title....he isn't the man for the job.

                  Also people would do well to remember that Coach Rose was inheriting a team that came off a 9-21 season and was picked to finish DEAD LAST his 1st year as the Head Coach.
                  Last edited by RockyBalboa; 12-14-2008, 09:21 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
                    When you have 7 mins left in the half and only have 2 FG's to your credit........even if it's against the #5 ranked team in the country who played most of the 1st half without their best player.....I'm sorry...but you suck and suck bad.

                    I'm just not seeing much that shows me Boylen has what it takes to be a Head Guy.

                    He's toned the histrionics quite a bit this year,,,but he still has a roster full of players soft as charmin and lacking in talent.

                    SU's rationale that Boylen has recruited better than Rose is total horseshit and makes about as much sense as the BYU fans who keep on claiming recruiting victories every year in football, but when you only beat your rival 2 times in 7 years........I'm just sayin....

                    I'll say this...the problem is your bball team is going to suck even worse next year....and if in a Bball coaches 3rd year he doesn't have a team with 20 wins and competing for a MWC Title....he isn't the man for the job.

                    Also people would do well to remember that Coach Rose was inheriting a team that came off a 9-21 season and was picked to finish DEAD LAST his 1st year as the Head Coach.
                    Exactly I also love how I keep hearing how Boylen needs several years to fix Giacolettis mistakes. Giacoletti was there for 3 years and took Utah to the sweet 16 in one of those years. In fact I remember distinctly several from this board talking about how Chris Hill found another "diamond in the rough".

                    Also 19-11 maybe a stretch for this team as well, mainly due to their schedule. Right now they are 5-4, they are going to lose 3 of their next 5 conference games. at Utah State, Gonzaga and LSU. They should be Weber State and UC Irvine. So that puts them at 7-7 going in to conference play. Sorry but no way does this team go 14-2 in the Mountain West. Most likely they go somewhere around 9-7. So they finish the year 16-14.
                    *Banned*

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      Exactly I also love how I keep hearing how Boylen needs several years to fix Giacolettis mistakes. Giacoletti was there for 3 years and took Utah to the sweet 16 in one of those years. In fact I remember distinctly several from this board talking about how Chris Hill found another "diamond in the rough".

                      Also 19-11 maybe a stretch for this team as well, mainly due to their schedule. Right now they are 5-4, they are going to lose 3 of their next 5 conference games. at Utah State, Gonzaga and LSU. They should be Weber State and UC Irvine. So that puts them at 7-7 going in to conference play. Sorry but no way does this team go 14-2 in the Mountain West. Most likely they go somewhere around 9-7. So they finish the year 16-14.
                      Saying that Giac "took" the Utes to the sweet 16 during his tenure is like saying that Whit is in his second BCS game as a head coach. Bogut took that team to the sweet 16 and the only thing I will give Giac credit for is talking Marc Jackson into coming back to play his senior year...but he ran other guys out of the program and rode the coat tales of a lottery pick to the sweet 16. If he did any coaching it was "pass it to #4."

                      The biggest area where Giac hurt the program was conceeding recruiting in AMERICA. He flat out said that he could not compete for recruits with "big" programs and had to go find diamonds in the rough over in Europe. It is fine to supplement your program with a Euro or two, but he had what? 5 to 7 guys? (Including Aussies). That is not a formula for success. Period.

                      I'm still on a wait and see approach with Boylen. I don't know how one could be anything else at this point.
                      "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                      Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                        Saying that Giac "took" the Utes to the sweet 16 during his tenure is like saying that Whit is in his second BCS game as a head coach. Bogut took that team to the sweet 16 and the only thing I will give Giac credit for is talking Marc Jackson into coming back to play his senior year...but he ran other guys out of the program and rode the coat tales of a lottery pick to the sweet 16. If he did any coaching it was "pass it to #4."

                        The biggest area where Giac hurt the program was conceeding recruiting in AMERICA. He flat out said that he could not compete for recruits with "big" programs and had to go find diamonds in the rough over in Europe. It is fine to supplement your program with a Euro or two, but he had what? 5 to 7 guys? (Including Aussies). That is not a formula for success. Period.

                        I'm still on a wait and see approach with Boylen. I don't know how one could be anything else at this point.
                        It could be argued that with what Majerus did his last 2 years at the helm that he hurt the program in the long run just as bad as Giac did.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                          Exactly I also love how I keep hearing how Boylen needs several years to fix Giacolettis mistakes. Giacoletti was there for 3 years and took Utah to the sweet 16 in one of those years. In fact I remember distinctly several from this board talking about how Chris Hill found another "diamond in the rough".

                          Also 19-11 maybe a stretch for this team as well, mainly due to their schedule. Right now they are 5-4, they are going to lose 3 of their next 5 conference games. at Utah State, Gonzaga and LSU. They should be Weber State and UC Irvine. So that puts them at 7-7 going in to conference play. Sorry but no way does this team go 14-2 in the Mountain West. Most likely they go somewhere around 9-7. So they finish the year 16-14.
                          Under your scenario 12-4 would get them to 19 wins but point taken. I think (and this is crimson colored glasses here) that they only lose to Gonzaga with the teams left before conference. That would put them at 9-5 and I say they beat TCU, WYO, AF twice. They split with byu, SDSU and either NM or Unlv
                          "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                          "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
                            It could be argued that with what Majerus did his last 2 years at the helm that he hurt the program in the long run just as bad as Giac did.
                            I'm ashamed to admit I read to the end of a Utah BB thread, but this is the most accurate statement I've read yet. I was sad when Majerus left Utah because he was in the process of running it into the ground.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
                              It could be argued that with what Majerus did his last 2 years at the helm that he hurt the program in the long run just as bad as Giac did.
                              That could be argued but it would be wrong. Majerus did nothing to hurt the Utah program, all he did was elevate it to heights it had never reached before him and will likely never reach again. Even Majerus "down" years would be tough for Utah to get back to.
                              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                              --Kendrick Lamar

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