Utah cancelling series vs BYU thread

[DrumNFeather]

Even with Kyle's new contract, I don't think he would pony up to buy that one out.

"He doesn't even buy new clothes!"

[imanihonjin]

I am firmly now in the camp of not caring whether the series in football or basketball continues. Yeah, I would be excited about a game if it happened, but it isn't worth it with all the drama Utah has brought lately. Let them think they are bigger than the rivalry and let's not prove them right.

[Maximus]

I remain disappointed that the game won't be played. The rivalry game is consistently one of the most interesting non-conference games on Utah's schedule. I'm not disappointed that BYU has lost one of the few quality opponents that will sign a home/home with them.

Dave Rose is taking the right stance, but that stance will ensure that the game isn't going to be played for a long time. I'd prefer the Utes take those terms, but they aren't going to.

I will miss kicking BYU's ass in basketball. It is a shame it won't be happening anytime soon. I guess I'll just have to enjoy beating BYU in football every year.

kicking byus ass? lol. We arent in the 90s

[MartyFunkhouser]

129-128

I'm using the cougjunkie definition of ass kicking where each win is counted as an ass kicking.

[chrisrenrut]

If I were making the decision for BYU, any negotiation with Utah for restarting the series has to start with Utah visiting Provo in the first game of that series. And add in a hefty buyout clause. That has to happen before any game can be played at Utah or a neutral site. Unfortunately, I don't think the fake doctor on the hill has any intent of ever playing in Provo again. I don't think anything will be agreed to under the current cast of characters. It could easily be at least ten years before the two teams play again in the regular season.

There is no chance Dr. Hill is Utah's AD for another 10 years. He's in his mid-60's now, I am betting he retires in a year or two. I think the pressure from big donors will have the series start up again in 2-3 years. That's kind of what happened in football.

[wapiti]

Georgetown and Maryland had the exact same issue from a series where one of them "owed" the other a home game. That finally ended this year and it was the first time they played a true home and home since the 1978-79 season.

I'm pretty sure that's how this one will go. It could be shorter but it depends on the next AD hire and how long Krysafteyak is around. The wildcard is the state legislature.

[DrumNFeather]

I'm pretty sure that's how this one will go. It could be shorter but it depends on the next AD hire and how long Krysafteyak are around and who replaces them. The wildcard is the state legislature.

With MD/G-Town there were plenty of neutral site games, but John Thompson and Gary Williams really dug their heels in on it, which Rose and Larry will certainly do.

[imanihonjin]

I'm using the cougjunkie definition of ass kicking where each win is counted as an ass kicking.

Great....In basketball, BYU has delivered more ass kickings (129 to be exact) than Utah has (128).

[cougjunkie]

Great....In basketball, BYU has delivered more ass kickings (129 to be exact) than Utah has (128).

Also the best coach in Utah history (Fat Majerus) didn't even have a winning record during his stay against Roger effing Reid.

On top of that, Dave Rose is something like 12-4 against Utah.

So yeah we pretty much own them.

[Omaha 680]

It will be fun to make a couple good tourney runs over the next three years while Utah struggles to make the dance with Kry's scheduling philosophy in rebuilding years. Will also be nice not to have a depleted Utah team dragging down our resume.

[SeattleUte]

Also the best coach in Utah history (Fat Majerus) didn't even have a winning record during his stay against Roger effing Reid.

On top of that, Dave Rose is something like 12-4 against Utah.

So yeah we pretty much own them.

Dave Rose? Are you serious? He owes his job to Jimmer, who was an accident, a two-star recruit. Serendipity. What has Dave Rose done with all those ESPN 100 guys he keeps bagging? He's done fuckola. He's a terrible coach; his defense is laughable. He can't even get respectable in the WCC. Here is how the world (outside Utah County) judges basketball traditions and programs:

NCAA Tournament champions

1944

NCAA Tournament runner-up

1998

NCAA Tournament Final Four

1944, 1961, 1966, 1998

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight

1944, 1956, 1961, 1966, 1997, 1998

NCAA Tournament Sweet Sixteen

1955, 1956, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1966, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1983, 1991, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2005, 2015

NCAA Tournament Round of 32

1977, 1978, 1981, 1983, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2015

NCAA Tournament appearances

1944, 1945, 1955, 1956, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1966, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1986, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2009, 2015

Conference tournament champions


WAC
1995, 1997, 1999

Mountain West
2004, 2009

Conference regular season champions


Rocky Mountain Conference
1931, 1932, 1933, 1937


Mountain States Conference
1938, 1945, 1955, 1956, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962


WAC
1966, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1986, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999

Mountain West
2000, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2009

[cougjunkie]

Dave Rose? Are you serious? He owes his job to Jimmer, who was an accident, a two-star recruit. Serendipity. What has Dave Rose done with all those ESPN 100 guys he keeps bagging? He's done fuckola. He's a terrible coach; his defense is laughable. He can't even get respectable in the WCC. Here is how the world (outside Utah County) judges basketball traditions and programs:

NCAA Tournament champions

1944

NCAA Tournament runner-up

1998

NCAA Tournament Final Four

1944, 1961, 1966, 1998

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight

1944, 1956, 1961, 1966, 1997, 1998

NCAA Tournament Sweet Sixteen

1955, 1956, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1966, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1983, 1991, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2005, 2015

NCAA Tournament Round of 32

1977, 1978, 1981, 1983, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2015

NCAA Tournament appearances

1944, 1945, 1955, 1956, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1966, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1986, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2009, 2015

Conference tournament champions


WAC
1995, 1997, 1999

Mountain West
2004, 2009

Conference regular season champions


Rocky Mountain Conference
1931, 1932, 1933, 1937


Mountain States Conference
1938, 1945, 1955, 1956, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962


WAC
1966, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1986, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999

Mountain West
2000, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2009

Lol. Utah literally has the most tainted NCAA championship of all time. I am sure you remember tuning in on your transistor radio and listening to the games.

Utah played in the NIT first, (the NIT which is where all the good schools played during that time) and they lost in the first round!!!

After an accident killed several Arkansas players and a coach, the NCAA needed another team for the junior tournament. None of the big boys cared to play in a consolation tournament. They reluctantly asked Utah if they would fill in Arkansas spot and the utes end up winning it, becoming the 9th best team in the country and probably throwing a parade.

Keep claiming that title though. Seriously it's a big deal.

[SCcoug]

Lol. Utah literally has the most tainted NCAA championship of all time. I am sure you remember tuning in on your transistor radio and listening to the games.

Utah played in the NIT first, (the NIT which is where all the good schools played during that time) and they lost in the first round!!!

After an accident killed several Arkansas players and a coach, the NCAA needed another team for the junior tournament. None of the big boys cared to play in a consolation tournament. They reluctantly asked Utah if they would fill in Arkansas spot and the utes end up winning it, becoming the 9th best team in the country and probably throwing a parade.

Keep claiming that title though. Seriously it's a big deal.

Don't forget that because of WWII most universities didn't field teams.

[SeattleUte]

BYU:

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight

1950, 1951, 1981

NCAA Tournament Sweet Sixteen

1950, 1951, 1957, 1965, 1971, 1981, 2011

NCAA Tournament appearances

1950, 1951, 1957, 1965, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015

Conference tournament champions

1991, 1992, 2001

Conference regular season champions

1924, 1925, 1932, 1933, 1934, 1948, 1950, 1951, 1957, 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1979, 1980, 1983, 1988, 1990, 1992, 1993, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011

--Special thanks to Wikipedia for these stats.

[chrisrenrut]

Lol. Utah literally has the most tainted NCAA championship of all time. I am sure you remember tuning in on your transistor radio and listening to the games.

Utah played in the NIT first, (the NIT which is where all the good schools played during that time) and they lost in the first round!!!

After an accident killed several Arkansas players and a coach, the NCAA needed another team for the junior tournament. None of the big boys cared to play in a consolation tournament. They reluctantly asked Utah if they would fill in Arkansas spot and the utes end up winning it, becoming the 9th best team in the country and probably throwing a parade.

Keep claiming that title though. Seriously it's a big deal.

Utah played the NIT winner after both tournaments, and beat NIT champion St Johns.

Utah also won the NIT tournament in 1947, which SU failed to include on the list. BYU won it 4 years later in 1951.