Jamal Aytes.....

[Pelado]

I think he is a Nate Hartsock type of kid. Real smart player with limited athletic ability who can score pretty well as a 4 with a decent inside and outside game. I don't think he can shoot the 3 like Nate could by the time Nate was a JR, but I understand Kyle is consistent out to 15 feet and can score with his back to the basket as well.

I think he chose to transfer because he wanted a piece of that vaunted BYU accounting program. So that should tell you all you need to know about him. Which is if he is good and the key player to a final 4 team, he is not likely tapping some haughty on the side and will disrupt our dreams. Nobody who studies accounting gets laid before they are 30.

That's not true. I met at least a couple guys in the program that got some a little before their 30th birthdays.

[byu71]

That's not true. I met at least a couple guys in the program that got some a little before their 30th birthdays.

I think he was thinking about those in the accounting program at Stevens Henniger.

[Blueintheface]

BYU accounting majors get laid, it's the USU ones that don't...this the reason he transferred.

True dat. Rolling in it.

[CJF]

#TopperMoment

As I read the thread I wondered who was going to point this out. Well done.

[San Juan Sun]

Seems like we'll have 5 bigs on the roster next year, right? Aytes, Davis, Corbin, Austin, and Nielsen. That's 80 MPG to split between those guys, I'm guessing Nielsen is the runt struggling for the hind teat. My guess is that the pres-season and early nonconference schedule will see a lot of experimentation with these guys. Which combo works best? Need defensive rebounding, maybe you go with Davis/Austin. Post defense, Davis/Kaufusi?

It's hard to say what Aytes will bring to the table, since we haven't seen him.

[Commando]

Supposedly Aytes has all the post moves to the rim and can score in the paint. Sadly, that sets him apart in this bunch.

[Goatnapper'96]

Seems like we'll have 5 bigs on the roster next year, right? Aytes, Davis, Corbin, Austin, and Nielsen. That's 80 MPG to split between those guys, I'm guessing Nielsen is the runt struggling for the hind teat. My guess is that the pres-season and early nonconference schedule will see a lot of experimentation with these guys. Which combo works best? Need defensive rebounding, maybe you go with Davis/Austin. Post defense, Davis/Kaufusi?

It's hard to say what Aytes will bring to the table, since we haven't seen him.

Presently, we will have 7 post players on the roster. The 5 you identify then Braiden Shaw and Jaykob Hartsock, younger brother of NATEM'F'NHARTSOCK (Boom Bitches). I don't know who will have scholarships as both Kyle Davis and Kaufusi are walk ons this year and I don't know if Rose is going to ask Austin to walk on next year. Lots to sort out with next years roster as by my count there are 15 guys vying for 13 scholarships. My recommendations is for Zac Seljaas to go straight on a mission and Nate Austin pay his way next year. But the word is Zac is still planning to play next year which I don't understand because I am not sure I see him playing very much next season. Other scholarship cuts could be if KyleC goes pro. That is not one that I would like very much and likely even understand less than Seljaas not going straight on a mission.

If Kaufusi and Davis are starters then I think they should have scholarships.

[Guest]

Presently, we will have 7 post players on the roster. The 5 you identify then Braiden Shaw and Jaykob Hartsock, younger brother of NATEM'F'NHARTSOCK (Boom Bitches). .

It is NOAH F'N HARTSOCK Son! As for Davis, he is legit! When I saw him play earlier in the year, he was the 2nd best dude on the floor behind Haws. Granted KC was still rehabbing the knee but Davis will make our team significantly better than this years team due to his ability to score inside, rebound, and defend. I would say his game is comparable to Noah's but he is more athletic. With regards to Aytes, if he can score and defend the team could be really special with Austin and Kaufusi manning the 5. This would allow Rose to go 10 deep and play aggressive defense and then basically run everyone out of the gym.

[smokymountainrain]

Presently, we will have 7 post players on the roster. The 5 you identify then Braiden Shaw and Jaykob Hartsock, younger brother of NATEM'F'NHARTSOCK (Boom Bitches). I don't know who will have scholarships as both Kyle Davis and Kaufusi are walk ons this year and I don't know if Rose is going to ask Austin to walk on next year. Lots to sort out with next years roster as by my count there are 15 guys vying for 13 scholarships. My recommendations is for Zac Seljaas to go straight on a mission and Nate Austin pay his way next year. But the word is Zac is still planning to play next year which I don't understand because I am not sure I see him playing very much next season. Other scholarship cuts could be if KyleC goes pro. That is not one that I would like very much and likely even understand less than Seljaas not going straight on a mission.

If Kaufusi and Davis are starters then I think they should have scholarships.

Zac Seljaas reminds me of Mark Bigelow in terms of his game, size and athleticism. Almost eerie how similar they seem to be. I think he can have an impact as a freshman, though his role will be much smaller than was Bigelow's. Perhaps he becomes that scorer off the bench in Winder's role or he starts at the 3. Either way, he's a guy who could come in and get double figures from day one. Also, if a guy plays as a freshman and plays well, there is always that glimmer of hope that he choose to skip the mission and play four straight. KC isn't going anywhere, btw.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Zac Seljaas reminds me of Mark Bigelow in terms of his game, size and athleticism. Almost eerie how similar they seem to be. I think he can have an impact as a freshman, though his role will be much smaller than was Bigelow's. Perhaps he becomes that scorer off the bench in Winder's role or he starts at the 3. Either way, he's a guy who could come in and get double figures from day one. Also, if a guy plays as a freshman and plays well, there is always that glimmer of hope that he choose to skip the mission and play four straight. KC isn't going anywhere, btw.

Really looking forward to next season already.

Hopefully in some nice new seats in the Big Mac!

[jay santos]

Presently, we will have 7 post players on the roster. The 5 you identify then Braiden Shaw and Jaykob Hartsock, younger brother of NATEM'F'NHARTSOCK (Boom Bitches). I don't know who will have scholarships as both Kyle Davis and Kaufusi are walk ons this year and I don't know if Rose is going to ask Austin to walk on next year. Lots to sort out with next years roster as by my count there are 15 guys vying for 13 scholarships. My recommendations is for Zac Seljaas to go straight on a mission and Nate Austin pay his way next year. But the word is Zac is still planning to play next year which I don't understand because I am not sure I see him playing very much next season. Other scholarship cuts could be if KyleC goes pro. That is not one that I would like very much and likely even understand less than Seljaas not going straight on a mission.

If Kaufusi and Davis are starters then I think they should have scholarships.

I've seen Seljaas play a little bit. It's so hard to predict what kids will do when they step up a level. HS to college. College to NBA. But I am really impressed with Seljaas. If Seljaas is on the roster next year, I'll be surprised he plays less than 16 minutes a game. And he has a chance to work his way into the starting lineup. I wish he was stronger. And I wish he was more willing to use his height to mix it up inside, but man he is a skilled, athletic kid for 6'6. With all the AAU and advanced competition he's been playing for the last several years, he'll be ready to play on Day 1.

edit: I'm hacking SMR. But IIRC, I think I was the first to make the Bigelow-Seljaas comparison. hmmm....

[smokymountainrain]

I've seen Seljaas play a little bit. It's so hard to predict what kids will do when they step up a level. HS to college. College to NBA. But I am really impressed with Seljaas. If Seljaas is on the roster next year, I'll be surprised he plays less than 16 minutes a game. And he has a chance to work his way into the starting lineup. I wish he was stronger. And I wish he was more willing to use his height to mix it up inside, but man he is a skilled, athletic kid for 6'6. With all the AAU and advanced competition he's been playing for the last several years, he'll be ready to play on Day 1.

edit: I'm hacking SMR. But IIRC, I think I was the first to make the Bigelow-Seljaas comparison. hmmm....

I'd honestly never heard the Seljaas/Bigs comparison. At least in my own mind, it was an original.

Also, I think he's a legit 6'7", but at the same time I realize who I'm arguing with

[Bo Diddley]

Really looking forward to next season already.

Hopefully in some nice new seats in the Big Mac!

This is a timely upgrade. The difference between the old and new seats is night and day.

[wapiti]

I'd honestly never heard the Seljaas/Bigs comparison. At least in my own mind, it was an original.

Also, I think he's a legit 6'7", but at the same time I realize who I'm arguing with

I haven't seen a ton of Seljaas but from what I've seen he has a better handle than Bigelow had. His length, athleticism, and ball handling gives him a chance to be more like Lee Cummard.

[Goatnapper'96]

I've seen Seljaas play a little bit. It's so hard to predict what kids will do when they step up a level. HS to college. College to NBA. But I am really impressed with Seljaas. If Seljaas is on the roster next year, I'll be surprised he plays less than 16 minutes a game. And he has a chance to work his way into the starting lineup. I wish he was stronger. And I wish he was more willing to use his height to mix it up inside, but man he is a skilled, athletic kid for 6'6. With all the AAU and advanced competition he's been playing for the last several years, he'll be ready to play on Day 1.

edit: I'm hacking SMR. But IIRC, I think I was the first to make the Bigelow-Seljaas comparison. hmmm....

I haven't seen him play very much yet, I just saw him for a bit against Kearns on TV, so I am optimistic about the positive reviews you folks are throwing his way. I just look at him, Toolsen and Fischer and I see similar strengths and weaknesses. They all appear to me to be kids who probably are able to score well but don't defend real well. I know they all have different games per se but all 3 players seem to me that offense will definitely be their forte. My hope is that Bartley continues to improve his offense enough that he is not a total liability (I define that as improving his free throw shooting and his jump shooting so that he can hit a 3 if left all alone while continuing to be able to penetrate - if he can average 8-10 ppg and be BYU's best perimeter defender that will be huge for BYU) on offense I hope he is playing 28 mpg next year. I expect Fischer to be the starter at the 2 and play a lot as well. That leaves about 34 mpg to be picked up between Emery, Toolsen, Chatman, Seljaas and potentially Calvert. If Emery can run the point when KyleC is out, I expect we won't see much of Calvert at all. So those 34 minutes are left between basically Emery, Toolsen, Chatman and Seljaas. Unless Seljaas is significantly better than the others at scoring the ball, which I am skeptical he will be much better than Toolsen next year, and factoring in Zac's plans to serve a mission following next year I don't see the benefit of playing him over Toolsen. But, while rare, I have been wrong before. What little I saw of Zac in the state tourney left me sharing the optimism about his offensive skills but I just wonder if he is physically ready enough to defend at the level BYU will need - especially if he is on the court with anyone other than Bartley. I am hopefull that Toolsen's being in the program for a year has made him better prepared to defend adequately next year.