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    When I look at the roster and the future of BYU it seems that Jamal Aytes went from being the fellow we panted over when he first announced his transfer to the kid I think might get lost.

    When he chose to transfer there was nothing in his way from being a go to kid for BYU once he became eligible. Not that he was good, but that as much of this year demonstrated we were severely undermanned in the post at both the 4 and 5. Shortly thereafter, Kyle Davis decides he wants to finish out his two years under the esteemed tutelage of Dave Rose and Mark Pope, something I can understand coming from Logan as the strange thing is kids want to play in the NCAA tourney. Now it appears that most think Kyle will be the starter for the next two years at the 4. Then Corbin Kaufusi shows up as an RM whose physical growth matched his spiritual growth for the past two years. Football ain't meant for 6'11" fellows so Corbin took his wares to the hardwood and about now that is looking like a really, really good career move. To further this sudden change of Jamaal's luck, Nate the Great Austin is likely to play next year and he is likely to get some minutes at the 4 along with backing up Kaufusi at the 5 - especially if Kaufusi develops any semblance of a consistent offensive game. These developments along with the return of Mika after next year has me wondering if Jamal is wondering what his future is as a Cougar.

    If he would have Chosen the Right as a HS senior and come straight to BYU, I wonder how much things would have changed for him.
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    From a dearth of talent to a plethora. Hardly a problem, in my estimation, as long as the scholarships are there.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
      When I look at the roster and the future of BYU it seems that Jamal Aytes went from being the fellow we panted over when he first announced his transfer to the kid I think might get lost.

      When he chose to transfer there was nothing in his way from being a go to kid for BYU once he became eligible. Not that he was good, but that as much of this year demonstrated we were severely undermanned in the post at both the 4 and 5. Shortly thereafter, Kyle Davis decides he wants to finish out his two years under the esteemed tutelage of Dave Rose and Mark Pope, something I can understand coming from Logan as the strange thing is kids want to play in the NCAA tourney. Now it appears that most think Kyle will be the starter for the next two years at the 4. Then Corbin Kaufusi shows up as an RM whose physical growth matched his spiritual growth for the past two years. Football ain't meant for 6'11" fellows so Corbin took his wares to the hardwood and about now that is looking like a really, really good career move. To further this sudden change of Jamaal's luck, Nate the Great Austin is likely to play next year and he is likely to get some minutes at the 4 along with backing up Kaufusi at the 5 - especially if Kaufusi develops any semblance of a consistent offensive game. These developments along with the return of Mika after next year has me wondering if Jamal is wondering what his future is as a Cougar.

      If he would have Chosen the Right as a HS senior and come straight to BYU, I wonder how much things would have changed for him.
      I know nothing about Kyle Davis. What BYU player of the past would you compare him to so I can get an idea of how good he is?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
        From a dearth of talent to a plethora. Hardly a problem, in my estimation, as long as the scholarships are there.
        Meh, I enjoy Goat's post as much as the next guy, but if Aytes can score in the post, none of it means anything. Kaufusi, Austin and Davis might do some things well, but there is still a severe lack of low post scoring. If Aytes can't score in the post, he was never really going to be a big deal regardless of when he played.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by byu71 View Post
          I know nothing about Kyle Davis. What BYU player of the past would you compare him to so I can get an idea of how good he is?
          I think he is a Nate Hartsock type of kid. Real smart player with limited athletic ability who can score pretty well as a 4 with a decent inside and outside game. I don't think he can shoot the 3 like Nate could by the time Nate was a JR, but I understand Kyle is consistent out to 15 feet and can score with his back to the basket as well.

          I think he chose to transfer because he wanted a piece of that vaunted BYU accounting program. So that should tell you all you need to know about him. Which is if he is good and the key player to a final 4 team, he is not likely tapping some haughty on the side and will disrupt our dreams. Nobody who studies accounting gets laid before they are 30.
          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
          -General George S. Patton

          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
          -DOCTOR Wuap

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          • #6
            Who is saying Kyle Davis will start over Aytes and why? I have no opinion or knowledge to form an opinion, just curious.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
              Meh, I enjoy Goat's post as much as the next guy, but if Aytes can score in the post, none of it means anything. Kaufusi, Austin and Davis might do some things well, but there is still a severe lack of low post scoring. If Aytes can't score in the post, he was never really going to be a big deal regardless of when he played.
              Davis scored 9 ppg at USU as a sophomore before he transferred to BYU. He is an accounting major. He scores in the post and gets blanked between the sheets!

              I would not say a plethora, and much like El Guapo I know what the word means, but certainly I think BYU is looking at having 4 kids to play the 4 and 5 who are all average at worst and I think both Kaufusi and Davis will be above average college players next year.
              Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
              -General George S. Patton

              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
              -DOCTOR Wuap

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                Who is saying Kyle Davis will start over Aytes and why? I have no opinion or knowledge to form an opinion, just curious.
                I think I have read it from some folks who claim to have seen practices this year. The word they claim to be common knowledge is that Davis is clearly the best big on the team. Pretty damn high praise if you ask me!
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                -DOCTOR Wuap

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                  I think he is a Nate Hartsock type of kid. Real smart player with limited athletic ability who can score pretty well as a 4 with a decent inside and outside game. I don't think he can shoot the 3 like Nate could by the time Nate was a JR, but I understand Kyle is consistent out to 15 feet and can score with his back to the basket as well.

                  I think he chose to transfer because he wanted a piece of that vaunted BYU accounting program. So that should tell you all you need to know about him. Which is if he is good and the key player to a final 4 team, he is not likely tapping some haughty on the side and will disrupt our dreams. Nobody who studies accounting gets laid before they are 30.
                  I guess you are unaware of the fact I was an accounting major??

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                    Davis scored 9 ppg at USU as a sophomore before he transferred to BYU. He is an accounting major. He scores in the post and gets blanked between the sheets!

                    I would not say a plethora, and much like El Guapo I know what the word means, but certainly I think BYU is looking at having 4 kids to play the 4 and 5 who are all average at worst and I think both Kaufusi and Davis will be above average college players next year.
                    Accounting major, eh? Okay, you win.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                      I guess you are unaware of the fact I was an accounting major??
                      Accounting majors where safe sex results in hair in unwanted places!
                      Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                      -General George S. Patton

                      I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                      -DOCTOR Wuap

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        I guess you are unaware of the fact I was an accounting major??
                        BYU accounting majors get laid, it's the USU ones that don't...this the reason he transferred.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                          Who is saying Kyle Davis will start over Aytes and why? I have no opinion or knowledge to form an opinion, just curious.
                          Davis played for USU against us last year. In that game he went 7/11 from the field for 16 points and 9 rebounds.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                            I think he is a Nate Hartsock type of kid. Real smart player with limited athletic ability who can score pretty well as a 4 with a decent inside and outside game. I don't think he can shoot the 3 like Nate could by the time Nate was a JR, but I understand Kyle is consistent out to 15 feet and can score with his back to the basket as well.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                              BYU accounting majors get laid, it's the USU ones that don't...this the reason he transferred.
                              Ha. Whoever said accountants can't be funny?
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