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  • #46
    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    I'll disagree with your NBA analysis. Of the bottom 12 defensive teams in the NBA, none of them are making the playoffs. Only 14 teams don't make the playoffs.
    I admittedly overstated things. I was speaking more towards the position that he will be playing. Nash is a terrible defender and yet is a two time MVP. Derrick Rose is equally terrible despite being athletically gifted and is a favorite to win the MVP this year.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Jacob View Post
      I'll disagree with your NBA analysis. Of the bottom 12 defensive teams in the NBA, none of them are making the playoffs. Only 14 teams don't make the playoffs.
      Defense is a team concept in the NBA. Since you can't hand check anymore, perimeter defense is about help and recovery, rotations, and funneling guys you can't stay in front of to the help. Locking guys down on the perimeter mano y mano went away with the NBA of the early 90s.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
        Defense is a team concept in the NBA. Since you can't hand check anymore, perimeter defense is about help and recovery, rotations, and funneling guys you can't stay in front of to the help. Locking guys down on the perimeter mano y mano went away with the NBA of the early 90s.
        Exactly.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
          That was painful. Two words: Ass Hat.
          Just read through that, and Bissinger was way off base. The entire premise of his article is that the Jimmer phenomenon is related to his future in the NBA. That the hype comes because everyone wants him to be the next white American NBA star, and he supports this with evidence that experts aren't terribly high on his NBA future, so all that's left backing the hype is the fact that he's white.

          However, the Jimmer phenomenon has never been related to his NBA future, but rather to his college present. He has been an electrifying college scorer, and people have enjoyed him for what that means now, in the college game. Nobody has projected him as the next Bird or Mullin -- hell, as an NBA prospect he hasn't even been considered half of what guys like Adam Morrison were. Jimmer has always been a ho-hum NBA prospect, but that's not what has captivated the country.
          Last edited by MarkGrace; 03-25-2011, 01:51 PM.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
            Just read through that, and Bissinger was way off base. The entire premise of his article is that the Jimmer phenomenon is related to his future in the NBA. That the hype comes because everyone wants him to be the next white American NBA star, and he supports this with evidence that experts aren't terribly high on his NBA future, so all that's left backing the hype is the fact that he's white.

            However, the Jimmer phenomenon has never been related to his NBA future, but rather to his college present. He has been an electrifying college scorer, and people have enjoyed him for what that means now, in the college game. Nobody has projected him as the next Bird or Mullin -- hell, as an NBA prospect he hasn't even been considered half of what guys like Adam Morrison were. Jimmer has always been a ho-hum NBA prospect, but that's not what has captivated the country.
            Exactly. He wrote that article in politically charged circles.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by TTCoug View Post
              The Jimmer has been ordained as pro basketball's next white comet. As a student at Brigham Young, where there are rules against drinking coffee and doing the funky monkey, the Jimmer is nothing less than a thick-necked Tea Party poster boy.

              http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...dette-of-byu/#
              All this time I thought it was Michael Jordan that was driving the ratings through the roof for the NBA back in the 90s.

              Come to find out, it was all John Stockton. You learn something new every day.
              Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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              • #52
                Not sure if anyone follows TJ on twitter, however his recent tweet is pretty funny. Begging Kevin Durrant for a shoutout because he is "Jimmer's brother and an inspiring rapper" I asked if he meant aspiring.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                  Not sure if anyone follows TJ on twitter, however his recent tweet is pretty funny. Begging Kevin Durrant for a shoutout because he is "Jimmer's brother and an inspiring rapper" I asked if he meant aspiring.
                  Is it confirmed that its TJ's account? Some people have been faking TJ lately.
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                  • #54
                    Pete Maravich missed more shots through 31 games than Jimmer took.
                    *Banned*

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                    • #55
                      that's it. i'm cancelling my subscription to ESPN The Magazine.

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                      • #56
                        Rick Reilly is a clown and a piece of shit. Jimmer has flaws for sure, but Rick Reilly's analysis is garbage and has incorrect statements in it.

                        I try to avoid reading his garbage and now I remember why.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View Post
                          Rick Reilly is a clown and a piece of shit. Jimmer has flaws for sure, but Rick Reilly's analysis is garbage and has incorrect statements in it.

                          I try to avoid reading his garbage and now I remember why.
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                          • #58
                            In Reilly's defense, nothing he said is really that outrageous. Jimmer has been a ton of fun to watch, but he has been fun to watch because he played on a team with no supporting cast and has had the green light to take ridiculous shots. It's not like Jimmer was the only player in college basketball that was able to make the shots he made, it's just that he was the only one that was allowed to take those shots.

                            While Jimmer has been entertaining, the truth is that Jimmer has not shot a good percentage since the first half of the season, has consistently played out of control, and is not a great ball handler. He has a vault full of highlight shots and has been fun to watch, but he does have several holes in his game.
                            Last edited by Non Sequitur; 03-26-2011, 06:32 PM.
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                            • #59
                              All I have to say to Reilly in the spirit of Cee Lo Green:


                              Fredette You!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                                In Reilly's defense, nothing he said is really that outrageous. Jimmer has been a ton of fun to watch, but he has been fun to watch because he played on a team with no supporting cast and has had the green light to take ridiculous shots. It's not like Jimmer was the only player in college basketball that was able to make the shots he made, it's just that he was the only one that was allowed to take those shots.

                                While Jimmer has been entertaining, the truth is that Jimmer has not shot a good percentage since the first half of the season, has consistently played out of control, and is not a great ball handler. He has a vault full of highlight shots and has been fun to watch, but he does have several holes in his game.
                                He took some legitimate criticisms of his game and took them to ridiculous proportions. Fredette is the best college player this year by a pretty big margin, but it isn't like he is a player without flaws. Pointing out those flaws is fine, but overblowing them like Reilly did made for a bad article.
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