Positive Press vs. Negative Press - who won?

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  • Borg
    Tour de CS 2013?
    • Dec 2008
    • 1501

    #1

    Positive Press vs. Negative Press - who won?

    Ok, there's a ton of negative press, people complaining about BYU, what they have done in the Brandon Davies situation. How draconian we are in our ways etc.

    However, there has also been a ton of good press, how it's great to see a university stick to it's principles, etc.

    So, in light of all the negative press and the positive press...who has won in the eye of public perception? (or winning)
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    Hmm... Good motivation for me to remain active I guess.
  • Surfah
    Where's Wallace?
    • Nov 2008
    • 33726

    #2
    Charlie Sheen.
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    • DapperDan
      Whut?
      • Mar 2010
      • 1132

      #3
      Negative press is the run away winner. The positive press is based on BYU keeping it's own rules. Rules that almost no one agrees with, and even fewer feel the punishment for breaking those rules fit the crime.

      Much like people have a certain amount of respect for the Amish for sticking with their backwards ways. Their ways are not respected even though they stick to them.

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      • UtahDan
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        • Nov 2008
        • 14496

        #4
        I think it depends on the audience. Probably a wash.

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        • Surfah
          Where's Wallace?
          • Nov 2008
          • 33726

          #5
          Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
          I think it depends on the audience. Probably a wash.
          I am pretty sure we lost in the 18-29 demographic.
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          • UtahDan
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            • Nov 2008
            • 14496

            #6
            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
            I am pretty sure we lost in the 18-29 demographic.
            True, but you probably won with their parents.

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            • Babs
              Not a Lawyer
              • Nov 2008
              • 17128

              #7
              Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
              True, but you probably won with their parents.
              Their parents were much less likely to run into the story.

              Borg, keep in mind that even though in Utah this is the headline news story on every paper and every telecast, that in the rest of the country the story isn't going to get a whole lot of attention from anybody other than sports fans. This isn't Romney-wears-funny-underwear. There are no jokes on the Late Show and no op-eds in the Wall Street Journal.

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              • Marvin Hardtospell
                Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 68

                #8
                There was a piece this morning in the daily rag that is handed out for free every morning on the London Underground called the Metro. Here is the link to the online version of the story:

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                • Eddie
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 8098

                  #9
                  It was on the CBS Evening News last night - they don't typically do sports, but reported on this. It was generally a positive report. They did name Davies as the star of the team, etc., etc, etc. Not that Davies isn't important to the team - but I can think of another player that is more important.

                  It looks like it might've been on the national morning news today too.

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                  • Flystripper
                    Degenerate Gambler
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14089

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DapperDan View Post
                    Negative press is the run away winner. The positive press is based on BYU keeping it's own rules. Rules that almost no one agrees with, and even fewer feel the punishment for breaking those rules fit the crime.

                    Much like people have a certain amount of respect for the Amish for sticking with their backwards ways. Their ways are not respected even though they stick to them.
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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69563

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DapperDan View Post
                      Negative press is the run away winner. The positive press is based on BYU keeping it's own rules. Rules that almost no one agrees with, and even fewer feel the punishment for breaking those rules fit the crime.

                      Much like people have a certain amount of respect for the Amish for sticking with their backwards ways. Their ways are not respected even though they stick to them.
                      According to the Deseret News and KSL, the reaction has been 100% positive.
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                      • KillerDog
                        a.k.a. K-dog
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 4196

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        According to the Deseret News and KSL, the reaction has been 100% positive.
                        I loved their Dan Jones poll. Even worse was their interpretation of the poll results in the KSL article.

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                        • Bjorn Turoque
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 50

                          #13
                          The answer to this question depends almost entirely on whether someone lives inside Utah or outside of Utah.

                          On a national level, it's impossible to say that the press has been negative. Every major news outlet has gone with the same basic storyline: In this era of universities breaking every rule they reasonably can in order to get ahead, BYU is a place of integrity. Even if their rules are archaic.

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                          • TripletDaddy
                            sweet triple
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 58186

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Babs View Post
                            Their parents were much less likely to run into the story.

                            Borg, keep in mind that even though in Utah this is the headline news story on every paper and every telecast, that in the rest of the country the story isn't going to get a whole lot of attention from anybody other than sports fans. This isn't Romney-wears-funny-underwear. There are no jokes on the Late Show and no op-eds in the Wall Street Journal.
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                            • CardiacCoug
                              вот так штука
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11013

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              According to the Deseret News and KSL, the reaction has been 100% positive.
                              Like I have been saying, this is the type of "news" that would make the governments of Iran or Libya proud.

                              I thought my wife was crazy when she insisted we switch from the DNews to the Tribune last year, but as usual she is just smarter than me about this stuff.

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