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"I am also somewhat concerned about their safety," Kau added. "Especially for the couple I saw engaged with each other against a full-length window in the Lee Library. I'm pretty sure sex standing up against a window is an honor-code violation, anyway."
"I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
"Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute
"There were an estimated 4,000 students having sex inside the performing arts center," Associate Dean of Students Jonathan Kau said. "So it's virtually impossible to establish any semblance of order. And the students are so absorbed in all the passionate sex they're having that they don't even pay attention when I try to stop them. I did call the police, who at one point tried to hose them down, but the students just seemed to like that more."
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Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
"I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally
While Davies remains suspended, he was present on the bench for the Cougars' home win against Wyoming last Saturday night, smiling as his team won a share of the Mountain West Conference championship in front of a jubilantly cheering and f***ing crowd.
lol
Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
"I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally
They did a nice job of capturing BYU's extraordinary commitment to campus cleanliness: "No damage has been done to the school's facilities or buildings, and where gardens or lawns have been disturbed, students have reportedly tried to replace divots and remove any wrappers, used condoms, or other detritus."
I like the idea of "replacing divots" following an amorous escapade.
They did a nice job of capturing BYU's extraordinary commitment to campus cleanliness: "No damage has been done to the school's facilities or buildings, and where gardens or lawns have been disturbed, students have reportedly tried to replace divots and remove any wrappers, used condoms, or other detritus."
I like the idea of "replacing divots" following an amorous escapade.
Pretty good research, but the mention of condom use suggests they didn't do quite enough.
When I was in the MTC (for a very long time) my instructor snuck in a Daily Universe one day and read to me a letter which condemned any "active church member who puts off having kids for school or career" as selfish, unworthy sinners who were "breaking the laws of God". It said that nobody should wait longer than a year before procreating. It went on to condemn the use of condoms or The Pill as tantamount to murder. Basically it was philosophies of men, mingled with scripture.
My instructor at the time had been married for ~5 years and with his wife was going through the challenges of infertility. He was not amused by this self-righteous boneheaded approach, and was somewhat surprised somebody would actually put pen to paper with such drivel.
The relatively high incidence of 'bareback' amorous episodes would suggest the anti-condom mindset is still prevalent. After all, it is 'premeditated sin' to buy one early...
I hope I am raising my boys right, teaching them the correct principles they need to govern themselves. I expect they will understand and live the principles of The Honor Code wherever they go to college. However I will still insist they carry a Jimmy Cap in their wallets...
A column in the current issue of TIME written by Nancy Gibbs, the magazine's lead author, discusses the suspension of two students from their respective schools for behavior violations. The essay begins with the following:
Two good kids. Two broken rules. Two parables of justice, except one offers a bracing lesson in honor and the other just leaves you heartsick at the latest evidence that zero tolerance often makes zero sense.
But some here may be surprised to learn that Brandon Davies is the first of the two students. The essay is very respectful of the way BYU and Davies handled the matter, and ends with:
Which brings us back to Brandon Davies and why his punishment has been applauded rather than condemned. He chose the school, signed the honor code, knew what was expected — and confessed to falling short. We have watched this spring a pageant of celebrity entitlement: lawmakers who think the laws they make don't apply to them, actors who act as though standards are for suckers. Treating Davies as a man of honor, who accepts responsibility for his actions, protects him from the poison of privilege. No cutting corners, the school said. Your honor is worth more than our glory. Sometimes justice is at its most merciful when it's blind.
A column in the current issue of TIME written by Nancy Gibbs, the magazine's lead author, discusses the suspension of two students from their respective schools for behavior violations. The essay begins with the following:
Two good kids. Two broken rules. Two parables of justice, except one offers a bracing lesson in honor and the other just leaves you heartsick at the latest evidence that zero tolerance often makes zero sense.
But some here may be surprised to learn that Brandon Davies is the first of the two students. The essay is very respectful of the way BYU and Davies handled the matter, and ends with:
Which brings us back to Brandon Davies and why his punishment has been applauded rather than condemned. He chose the school, signed the honor code, knew what was expected — and confessed to falling short. We have watched this spring a pageant of celebrity entitlement: lawmakers who think the laws they make don't apply to them, actors who act as though standards are for suckers. Treating Davies as a man of honor, who accepts responsibility for his actions, protects him from the poison of privilege. No cutting corners, the school said. Your honor is worth more than our glory. Sometimes justice is at its most merciful when it's blind.
It is a genuine conspiracy. To quote Al Pacino from "The Devil's Own:" "Pride! It will get them every time!" The key to keeping BYU down is to reinforce its limiting self-imposed rules. This is done by allowing the BYU metrosexual shrilling masses to hit on the crack pipe of moral superiority in the eyes of the uncirmcumcised masses. Damn you Time, Damn you to hell!
Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
My hopes that an announcement would come saying Davies had suffered enough and he would be reinstated for the NCAA were dashed by a post on CB.
Someone on CB reported Elder Jensen in a Stake Conference stated the church was getting positive vibes from the supsension of Davies. Thanks Brandon, your actions may actually prove to be a more productive missionary tool than Jimmer's achievements.
It is a genuine conspiracy. To quote Al Pacino from "The Devil's Own:" "Pride! It will get them every time!" The key to keeping BYU down is to reinforce its limiting self-imposed rules. This is done by allowing the BYU metrosexual shrilling masses to hit on the crack pipe of moral superiority in the eyes of the uncirmcumcised masses. Damn you Time, Damn you to hell!
There is, regretfully, much truth here. But going forward, we can turn this around by getting Brandon back on the court this fall (and the summer Greek Tour would be nice, too), showing the world that we are ultimately a kind and forgiving people.
"I was definitely treated more than fair," he told reporters. "Just to be able to make it back here and be able to be a part of this team again is a blessing to me."
BYU begins its 2011-12 season on Friday at Utah State.
Davies, the Cougars' top returning scorer and rebounder, was readmitted to the school in August. He was suspended at the end of the regular season just as the Cougars had climbed to No. 3 in the rankings after BYU became aware he had premarital sex.
BYU, which is unranked at the beginning of this season, advanced to the Sweet 16 without Davies. He said it "hurt" not being able to help his teammates.
"Not just me, but everyone around me," he told reporters. "It's definitely something I'll never forget about and something I never want to do again, so I just use that to drive me in all that I do today."
The school does not discuss the nature of suspensions but under the honor code students are prohibited from having premarital sex and drinking alcoholic beverages, among other things.
Davies said he thinks he has changed for the better after his suspension, "but that's up to other people to decide."
"I can't really tell someone that I've changed; it's up to me to show that. Hopefully I'm in the right direction and doing that the best I can."
Davies, who grew up in Provo, had started 26 of 29 games for the Cougars and averaged 11.1 points and a team-leading 6.2 rebounds.
He said he was not contacted by any other universities about transferring after his suspension.
"I am just glad to be here, back with my teammates and back here where I am supported and loved by so many," he told reporters. "Just to be back here and be able to be part of this team again is a blessing to me."
“I was definitely treated more than fair. It really doesn’t matter what people think as long as I know that I’ve grown as a person and know it’s only going to get better.”
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