Hartsock 3pt% leads the team by 5%
Noah Hartsock needs to____________
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I had the same thought. I don't think his 3-point shooting helps this team, and was hoping Rose would tell him to knock it off. On a team already full of chuckers, having a 4 trying to join them isn't good.Originally posted by Blueintheface View PostI'll throw this out there...that 3-pt make last night might have been a curse rather than a blessing. Flame away.
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Maybe the snake was popular at Provo High when Davies was there. That would seem to follow the typical life cycle of fashion trends.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostAre you going to be at the game? He has some ok moves coming through that lineup. Watch him...definitely has some swagger to him, and after doing it before every game, you can't help but improve your vert a little.
Davies has some sick moves inside the players circle. Not as good as Loyd, but pretty tight for a guy that is pushing 7 feet. It almost looks like he is snaking but I didnt think people did that dance move anymore.
I'm going to be on the look out for swagger from Hartstork on Saturday.
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The biggest positive for him out of the AFA game was that he showed he had to adapt due to the slump he was in and he was regularly stepping inside the line when the ball was rotated to him. He hadn't been doing that for 2 weeks...he was constantly behind the line unless he was long the baseline.Originally posted by woot View PostI had the same thought. I don't think his 3-point shooting helps this team, and was hoping Rose would tell him to knock it off. On a team already full of chuckers, having a 4 trying to join them isn't good.
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I actually think that Davies is doing his version of the Dougie.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostAre you going to be at the game? He has some ok moves coming through that lineup. Watch him...definitely has some swagger to him, and after doing it before every game, you can't help but improve your vert a little.
Davies has some sick moves inside the players circle. Not as good as Loyd, but pretty tight for a guy that is pushing 7 feet. It almost looks like he is snaking but I didnt think people did that dance move anymore."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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I disagree. I think forcing the other team to respect his range creates space for Jimmer and opens up other components of Noah's game (offensive rebounding in particular). Look at DW down in Arizona. He doesn't shoot very many 3s but he makes a decent number of those he shoots. This forces close-out beyond the arc by the guy guarding him and allows his dribble drive and offensive rebounding to be more effective.Originally posted by woot View PostI had the same thought. I don't think his 3-point shooting helps this team, and was hoping Rose would tell him to knock it off. On a team already full of chuckers, having a 4 trying to join them isn't good.
I think Noah's mistake was that he started looking for the 3 too often and to the exclusion of other things but I like him at 2 or 3 a game.
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Not throwing stones here...I looked up the stats before I posted that and I follow BYU basketball as closely as anyone so...thanks.Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
His 3-pt shot is trending down. My opinion remains the same."Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Good points, but I just worry about our inside presence, and wonder if having him hit the occasional 3 is worth not having him inside. Having said that, however, it occurs to me that the offense is such that there's really only one guy inside, and having Noah and Davies on the court at the same time is largely for defensive purposes, not because it fits our offensive scheme. So perhaps it's fine. I still think his 15-18 foot game is where he should focus, but perhaps the occasional 3 isn't bad.Originally posted by KillerDog View PostI disagree. I think forcing the other team to respect his range creates space for Jimmer and opens up other components of Noah's game (offensive rebounding in particular). Look at DW down in Arizona. He doesn't shoot very many 3s but he makes a decent number of those he shoots. This forces close-out beyond the arc by the guy guarding him and allows his dribble drive and offensive rebounding to be more effective.
I think Noah's mistake was that he started looking for the 3 too often and to the exclusion of other things but I like him at 2 or 3 a game.
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So? Jimmer went 3 for 16 his previous two games. I don't think either stat means jack squat.Originally posted by woot View PostHe was at 70+% at one point, and missed 7 or so in a row before the one he hit last night.
Here's a tip for your social scientists: drawing conclusions from a sample size of 7 is always a good idea.
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Here's a tip for you:Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostSo? Jimmer went 3 for 16 his previous two games. I don't think either stat means jack squat.
Here's a tip for your social scientists: drawing conclusions from a sample size of 7 is always a good idea.
I tried to be nice but your own ego got in the way.
I'll save you the post that will inevitably follow....
"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Then apparently I wasn't talking to you. I'm not a social scientist, by the way.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostSo? Jimmer went 3 for 16 his previous two games. I don't think either stat means jack squat.
Here's a tip for your social scientists: drawing conclusions from a sample size of 7 is always a good idea.
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Hartsock is averaging just over 2 three point attempts per game in conference play. His percentage is just fine and if he isn't hitting, it's not like he jacks up 6 or 7 until he starts hitting -- like Emery and someone else who shall-not-be-named does.
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