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Not sure it has sunk in yet how big beating Arizona on the road and destroying Kansas is.
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I'll call myself out.Originally posted by beefytee View PostThe sad truth is this is an NIT caliber team.
I would love for them to turn it around before the end of the season. I don’t see that happening at this point though.
I'm thrilled I was wrong, and the team was able to turn it around. Things really started to click after the Cincinatti game.
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I don't know that it was a huge turnaround as much as it was the many new pieces finally coming together and improving to where they are now able to beat some very good teams they weren't able to earlier. Also they were outside of the bracket for much of the season in large part due to the crazy weak out of conference schedule that gave almost no opportunities for tournament worthy wins and they needed a few weeks of conference play to get some of those. They never had any bad losses as the committee would define it (q3 or q4).Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
what an amazing turnaround
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Espn bubble watch has BYU as a should be in with a 94% chance, essentially a lock. Beating ASU should do it.
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BYU checks in at #25 on the AP poll (Kansas drops out of the rankings):
https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-col...asketball-poll
In the coaches poll, BYU is the highest in the "Others Receiving Votes" with 39. #25 Creighton received 43 votes.
https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/bask...b/coaches-poll
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A hip check on Saunders that knocked him a little off balance just as he was starting his approach to the basket is absolutely a foul, especially in the context of the way they were calling the game at the time with the several very light fouls called against BYU in the last couple of minutes that were keeping Arizona in the game.
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Yeah, I thought it was before the shot.Originally posted by Pelado View Post
Yes, and the contact and displacement is even more obvious from the angle Shaka posted (and closer to the view the ref had of the play):
It's clearly and definitely a foul. Only Arizona partisans would argue otherwise after seeing the play from that perspective.
The only question is whether he was in the act of shooting when the foul occurred. Maybe it should have been 1-and-1 instead of 2 shots. But that's somewhat moot because he made them both, anyway.
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Reference to what happened in the 90s NBA playoffs is a non-sequitur. That was my era as well and I enjoyed that style of play but it has zero relevance to how college basketball is officiated in 2025.Originally posted by byufan4ever View Post
I also grew up watching 90's NBA and no way that gets called in the playoffs. I stand by that BYU fans would be crying here if that had happened to us.
What is relevant is sticking your knee out at the last moment to make yourself wider when they guy you are defending is going to beat you is not legal guarding position. If the defender is not in legal guarding position, any contact that displaces the offensive player to the point that it affects his shot is a foul on the defense. It looked like a questionable call in the replays shown in the broadcast, but I have no problem with the call after seeing other angles. But as I posted before I didn't have issue with it even if it was a soft call as Love lived at the FT line in the second half and many of those fouls were extremely soft if not downright incorrect calls.
The Dude is right, this stupid philosophy that the final play in football or basketball should allow the defense to play "harder" (read: cheat) because somehow the team with the ball has to "earn" the win more on the final play than at any other time in the game is moronic. This is the same as the Holy War football game. A hold on that 4th down is the same as a hold any other time in the game. The defense doesn't deserve an automatic advantage because refs are afraid of blowback from stupid fans who don't know anything. (I'm talking about Arizona crybabies not you).[/QUOTE]
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Yes, and the contact and displacement is even more obvious from the angle Shaka posted (and closer to the view the ref had of the play):Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
It's clearly and definitely a foul. Only Arizona partisans would argue otherwise after seeing the play from that perspective.Originally posted by Shaka View Post
The only question is whether he was in the act of shooting when the foul occurred. Maybe it should have been 1-and-1 instead of 2 shots. But that's somewhat moot because he made them both, anyway.
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I also grew up watching 90's NBA and no way that gets called in the playoffs. I stand by that BYU fans would be crying here if that had happened to us.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostActing like the last call of a game is more significant or should be called differently than all of the other calls in the game is dumb.
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Acting like the last call of a game is more significant or should be called differently than all of the other calls in the game is dumb.
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