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  • Will Going Pac-12 Hasten or Delay Boylen's Departure?

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    Hasten. His coaching genius magnified on a national stage, he'll be snapped up by another school.
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    Hasten. Pac12 fans w/visions of Big Rick are underwhelmed & new money will buy Utah a better coach
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    Delay. Currently the Pac12 is inferior to the MWC, so Boylen will have more wins and keep his job.
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    Delay: Moving to a new league resets the clock & gives Boylen a new lease on his Ute coaching life.
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  • #2
    I think Utah just became a lot more attractive job, particularly for an up and coming coach. I think unless there is big improvement this year Boylen will be done. I think he is a good enough coach, but his ability to recruit in the areas and in the ways that have made Utah successful in the past is almost non-existent. I think the next coach will be a west coast guy, perhaps with Pac 10 connections or assistant coach experience.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
      I think Utah just became a lot more attractive job, particularly for an up and coming coach. I think unless there is big improvement this year Boylen will be done. I think he is a good enough coach, but his ability to recruit in the areas and in the ways that have made Utah successful in the past is almost non-existent. I think the next coach will be a west coast guy, perhaps with Pac 10 connections or assistant coach experience.
      The St. Marys coach could be in play now. Having said that, I think Utah still gives him 2 years.
      "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

      Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
        The St. Marys coach could be in play now. Having said that, I think Utah still gives him 2 years.
        If he were to parlay this into a big recruit or two in the off season it would sure make that more likely.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
          I think Utah just became a lot more attractive job, particularly for an up and coming coach. I think unless there is big improvement this year Boylen will be done. I think he is a good enough coach, but his ability to recruit in the areas and in the ways that have made Utah successful in the past is almost non-existent. I think the next coach will be a west coast guy, perhaps with Pac 10 connections or assistant coach experience.
          Basketball is a different story from football. What more can Utah offer/accomplish as a BCS basketball program compared to being a non-BCS program? New Mexico can earn a 3-seed and spend most of the season ranked in the top 10. BYU can spend the season ranked and earn a 5-seed. Gonzaga has no trouble raking in very good prospects and earning high seeds on a yearly basis.

          The prestige doesn't change with a move to the PAC-10. The opponents change, and in 7-10 years the facilities might improve, but this won't have as much of an impact on basketball like it does for football. IOW, I don't necessarily agree the job is more attractive to a higher caliber of coach.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
            Basketball is a different story from football. What more can Utah offer/accomplish as a BCS basketball program compared to being a non-BCS program? New Mexico can earn a 3-seed and spend most of the season ranked in the top 10. BYU can spend the season ranked and earn a 5-seed. Gonzaga has no trouble raking in very good prospects and earning high seeds on a yearly basis.

            The prestige doesn't change with a move to the PAC-10. The opponents change, and in 7-10 years the facilities might improve, but this won't have as much of an impact on basketball like it does for football. IOW, I don't necessarily agree the job is more attractive to a higher caliber of coach.
            These are valid reasons, but they arise because in basketball, THERE IS A PLAYOFF. In three years when there is a playoff in football, the same thing occur on the gridiron.

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            • #7
              What assumption are we working with regarding how long Boylen had to turn things around while Utah was still in the MWC?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
                What assumption are we working with regarding how long Boylen had to turn things around while Utah was still in the MWC?
                I think two more years was the consensus.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                  These are valid reasons, but they arise because in basketball, THERE IS A PLAYOFF. In three years when there is a playoff in football, the same thing occur on the gridiron.
                  I really hope you are wrong. I want no part of a playoff in college football. I didn't want one before the Utes were in the PAC-12 and I want one even less now.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                    The St. Marys coach could be in play now. Having said that, I think Utah still gives him 2 years.
                    Utah would have to be even worse than last year for Boylen to lose his job.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                      I really hope you are wrong. I want no part of a playoff in college football. I didn't want one before the Utes were in the PAC-12 and I want one even less now.

                      You honestly don't enjoy March Madness?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by USS Utah View Post
                        Utah would have to be even worse than last year for Boylen to lose his job.
                        I totally agree, I just think that for a coach like that, a move to Utah makes more sense in the Pac 12.
                        "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                        Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                          I really hope you are wrong. I want no part of a playoff in college football. I didn't want one before the Utes were in the PAC-12 and I want one even less now.
                          strange. I think a playoff would be awesome for fans of the sport.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                            These are valid reasons, but they arise because in basketball, THERE IS A PLAYOFF. In three years when there is a playoff in football, the same thing occur on the gridiron.
                            I hope there is a playoff in football as it is the only way to find a true champion.
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                            • #15
                              If there had been a playoff 3 years ago, the Utes may have had an NC.

                              They sure looked awful good.

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