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    Boylen's "Issues"

    I find all of the posts (not necessarily here) on Boylen's anger "issues" to be kind of funny. I really have not seen a whole lot from Boylen in terms of antics that really bothers me. It looks to me like he is just an intense guy who wants his team to be better than they really are.

    I can't help but get the sense that those that really complain about his antics have never really played competitive sports, and don't understand that you can get angry playing or coaching any sport.

    Several years ago, when Matt Daugherty was losing at UNC, the comment was made that if he was winning, all his yelling and hooting and hollaring at the players would mean that he was a good motivator. When you are losing your just a loon who is yelling and screaming on the sidelines.

    This may be fan spin, but personally, I'd rather have a coach that gets pissed at losing rather than one that is just perfectly okay with losing.
    "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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    Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    I find all of the posts (not necessarily here) on Boylen's anger "issues" to be kind of funny. I really have not seen a whole lot from Boylen in terms of antics that really bothers me. It looks to me like he is just an intense guy who wants his team to be better than they really are.

    I can't help but get the sense that those that really complain about his antics have never really played competitive sports, and don't understand that you can get angry playing or coaching any sport.

    Several years ago, when Matt Daugherty was losing at UNC, the comment was made that if he was winning, all his yelling and hooting and hollaring at the players would mean that he was a good motivator. When you are losing your just a loon who is yelling and screaming on the sidelines.

    This may be fan spin, but personally, I'd rather have a coach that gets pissed at losing rather than one that is just perfectly okay with losing.
    I think he is a little over the top, but I also think Bronco is a little under the top.

    What I always wonder about guys like Boylen that are excitable is how did they make it as assistants? If he gets that into the game, how did he hold back when he was 2nd or 3rd chair? Is it the same kind of reflex that keeps one from dropping the F bomb around their grandparents?
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    -landpoke

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    • #3
      Yes, it is fan spin.

      His histrionics last year were odd and bizarre.

      He's toned it down a bit this year, but only a bit.

      It seems like his players are just beginning to tune him out.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
        Yes, it is fan spin.

        His histrionics last year were odd and bizarre.

        He's toned it down a bit this year, but only a bit.

        It seems like his players are just beginning to tune him out.
        That's the biggest issue IMO. The basketball team is the opposite of the football team. The football team plays with emotion, looks like it gives a shit, and is really on the same wave length as the coaches. The basketball team...not so much. That's why I think you see Carlon Brown just take it to the hole from time to time with authority...screw the offense says Carlon, I can jump over this 7 foot white dude in my sleep.

        I didn't mind the quick handshake last night...I mean, really, who likes Stew Morrill?
        "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

        Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
          I didn't mind the quick handshake last night...I mean, really, who likes Stew Morrill?
          I'm guessing the quick handshake was more because Boylen wanted to get off the floor ASAP before he went off about the clock issue. He looked like he was ready to kill the timekeeper - understandably so - but decided to get out of there before he did or said something that he'd later regret.
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          • #6
            Boylen is out of his mind. I honestly think there's something wrong with the guy.
            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
              I didn't mind the quick handshake last night...I mean, really, who likes Stew Morrill?
              Handshakes actually require at least one... you know...shake. I'm kind of embarrassed for him. I've acted that way before and afterward, once I've calmed down, I feel like a total douche. I wonder if he feels the same way. The guy just needs to get a grip.
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              • #8
                over the top...

                I'm with Huskyfree, surprise! How did he handle himself as an assistant? I don't mind him being intense and all, a lot of great coaches are intense etc. But he seems to want to be the star in a lot of ways. Showing other coaches up, grabbing the mic and yelling in it.

                I agree that I think the players are starting to either tune him out or he isn't getting to them. While they have lost a couple of games to some good teams this year, he has lost to some absolute DOGS!

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                • #9
                  I'm shocked! Shocked! I've never seen a basketball coach yell.
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    I'm shocked! Shocked! I've never seen a basketball coach yell.
                    I've seen a few bball coaches yell.

                    But I also see them win.
                    At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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                    • #11
                      Seatle settle down

                      Sure coaches yell. I'm glad you are behind your guy, because there are a lot of utah fans that are not behind him like they were not too long ago. I could care less if he yells, swears and carries on. Winning is what it is about. He is calling out EVERY team in the MWC for scheduling, which is probably a good thing, but when you call everyone out, don't go lose to Southwest Baptist and Idaho St.!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cougswin View Post
                        Sure coaches yell. I'm glad you are behind your guy, because there are a lot of utah fans that are not behind him like they were not too long ago. I could care less if he yells, swears and carries on. Winning is what it is about. He is calling out EVERY team in the MWC for scheduling, which is probably a good thing, but when you call everyone out, don't go lose to Southwest Baptist and Idaho St.!
                        The problem with you guys and a lot of Ute fans is you rush to judgment on coaches. You did it with Crowton, Whit and even maybe BM and Rose. You might be doing it with Boylen. I don't think we have a sufficient data base to judge him. I'll be a harsh judge year after next when his past two years of impressive recruiting success are all in at least their second year. Even when a coach experiences success his first couple of years I think it's still to early to judge, especially if he's never been a HC. Many a new HC has thrived in short term on his predecessor's labors, only to experience his best seasons before the group he inherited all moved on. I don't know how BYU fans can be too happy with Rose, who inherited a wonderful group of freshmen who went on mini-missions to boot, and STILL has not won in the post-season.
                        Last edited by SeattleUte; 12-30-2008, 08:33 PM.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          The problem with you guys and a lot of Ute fans is you rush to judgment on coaches. You did it with Crowton, Whit and even maybe BM and Rose. You might be doing it with Boylen. I don't think we have a sufficient data base to judge him. I'll be a harsh judge year after next when his past two years of impressive recruiting success are all in at least their second year. Even when a coach experiences success his first couple of years I think it's still to early to judge, especially if he's never been a HC. Many a new HC has thrived in short term on his predecessor's labors, only to experience his best seasons before the group he inherited all moved on. I don't know how BYU fans can be too happy with Rose, who inherited a wonderful group of freshmen who went on mini-missions to boot, and STILL has not won in the post-season.
                          So which way would you have it? On the one hand you claim you will wait to critique Boylen as a head coach until his 4th season. On the other hand, you claim BYU fans should be upset with Rose for failing to win in the post-season thus far, despite not having many of his own recruits on the team. Seems like a pretty blatant double standard.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            I don't know how BYU fans can be too happy with Rose, who inherited a wonderful group of freshmen who went on mini-missions to boot, and STILL has not won in the post-season.
                            He beat Wyoming. Someday you will also know the exhilarating feeling of finishing a game against Wyoming with more points than them.
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                            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                              The problem with you guys and a lot of Ute fans is you rush to judgment on coaches. You did it with Crowton, Whit and even maybe BM and Rose. You might be doing it with Boylen. I don't think we have a sufficient data base to judge him. I'll be a harsh judge year after next when his past two years of impressive recruiting success are all in at least their second year. Even when a coach experiences success his first couple of years I think it's still to early to judge, especially if he's never been a HC. Many a new HC has thrived in short term on his predecessor's labors, only to experience his best seasons before the group he inherited all moved on. I don't know how BYU fans can be too happy with Rose, who inherited a wonderful group of freshmen who went on mini-missions to boot, and STILL has not won in the post-season.
                              SU I was expecting to see a post last night about your Hoyas big win. All the talk about basketball being your sport, you are letting me down.
                              Get confident, stupid
                              -landpoke

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