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  • #1

    I'm pumped for Utah's team this year.

    First of all the mwc is wide open. When we want to go big on opponents we can.


    7-3 Foster - Center
    7-0 Washburn - Power Forward
    6-11 Tillie - Small Forward
    6-5 Durca - PG
    6-5 Brown - SG

    From reports Henderson can really shoot and Carlon Brown has developed a nice outside game. I still think Cyphers and Tavita are only going to get better and if Read and watkins can give us some good minutes this team could be surprising.
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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  • #2
    Sounds like Watkins may make the biggest splash this year. Should be fun.
    "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    • #3
      Boylen has definitely returned some excitement and optimism that has been lost during the dark ages. Hopefully, the crowds will return again this year.
      "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

      "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

      "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

      -Rick Majerus

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      • #4
        Please go with that big lineup against BYU, please I am begging BOylen to try that and watch them get ran off the floor.
        *Banned*

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
          Please go with that big lineup against BYU, please I am begging BOylen to try that and watch them get ran off the floor.
          The big, slow lineup is becoming a thing of the past in college basketball. If your 4 can't guard on the perimeter, you're probably going to be in trouble.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jay santos View Post
            The big, slow lineup is becoming a thing of the past in college basketball. If your 4 can't guard on the perimeter, you're probably going to be in trouble.
            Utah's big lineup would be that. Tillie has the athleticism to guard any small forward in the league. Washburn has the athleticism to guard any Power forward outside in the league. Just because they are big doesnt mean they are automatically slow.
            "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

            "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
              Utah's big lineup would be that. Tillie has the athleticism to guard any small forward in the league. Washburn has the athleticism to guard any Power forward outside in the league. Just because they are big doesnt mean they are automatically slow.
              Tillie can not guard any small forward in the league and you have not seen a thing from Washburn so how do you know?

              Tillie is an undersized 5 and nothing more. He is not overly athletic and he would not be able to guard Tavernari, Muojeke, or Billy White at the 3. Also all 3 of those guys can play the 4 as well, I would love to see Washburn try and guard any of them out on the perimeter as well.

              Utah has some exciting young talent and good potential but please lets not get carried away.
              *Banned*

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                Tillie can not guard any small forward in the league and you have not seen a thing from Washburn so how do you know?

                Tillie is an undersized 5 and nothing more. He is not overly athletic and he would not be able to guard Tavernari, Muojeke, or Billy White at the 3. Also all 3 of those guys can play the 4 as well, I would love to see Washburn try and guard any of them out on the perimeter as well.

                Utah has some exciting young talent and good potential but please lets not get carried away.
                Admittedly the last time I saw Washburn was in Michigan High State finals and he did play out on the perimeter. Reminded me a lot of Tim Frost. How that is translated in College BB is still obviously undecided.

                As for Tillie he could guard tavernari. He is athletic and a leaper.

                I'm not getting carried away I am just pumped about this team. They will go through some definite streches of problems but I think we will see a decent team.
                Last edited by Mormon Red Death; 10-29-2009, 11:43 AM.
                "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                  Tillie can not guard any small forward in the league and you have not seen a thing from Washburn so how do you know?

                  Tillie is an undersized 5 and nothing more. He is not overly athletic and he would not be able to guard Tavernari, Muojeke, or Billy White at the 3. Also all 3 of those guys can play the 4 as well, I would love to see Washburn try and guard any of them out on the perimeter as well.

                  Utah has some exciting young talent and good potential but please lets not get carried away.

                  Not correcting you, but you would love to see Washburn try and guard any of them out there...yet you say that MRD has not seen a thing of Washburn...huh? Have you been playing Washburn and know who he can or can't guard?

                  Actually, you are incorrect on Tillie not being overly athletic. He is extremely athletic. The problem with Tillie is that he is not a very good on the ball defender. He is good at helping because of his athleticism, but he gets lost when guarding his own man. If Boylen can improve that on him, Tillie would be very good at the 5, 4 and occasionally the 3 spot. But if he has not improved that, then he will really struggle.

                  The Utes will have some big struggles this year. Watkins, Reed and Henderson are three guys that I am excited to watch this year. I see the Utes as high as 3 or 4 if things go well for them...or as low as 6th place. I am excited to see how they do.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UteStar View Post
                    Actually, you are incorrect on Tillie not being overly athletic. He is extremely athletic. The problem with Tillie is that he is not a very good on the ball defender. He is good at helping because of his athleticism, but he gets lost when guarding his own man. If Boylen can improve that on him, Tillie would be very good at the 5, 4 and occasionally the 3 spot. But if he has not improved that, then he will really struggle.
                    To use a quote from King Richard the Lionheart outa Braveheart, "the problem with france is it is full of french people."

                    Methinks that tells us all about monseiur tillie we need to know!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                      First of all the mwc is wide open. When we want to go big on opponents we can.


                      7-3 Foster - Center
                      7-0 Washburn - Power Forward
                      6-11 Tillie - Small Forward
                      6-5 Durca - PG
                      6-5 Brown - SG

                      From reports Henderson can really shoot and Carlon Brown has developed a nice outside game. I still think Cyphers and Tavita are only going to get better and if Read and watkins can give us some good minutes this team could be surprising.
                      I read where Jay Watkins is out 6 weeks. Does he have a redshirt available? It might be difficult to find himself and his role after missing the rest of the preseason and the first month of the season.

                      I think the Utes have some really promising prospects. It sounded like the tentative starting 5 is:

                      1- Luca Drca
                      2- Marshall Henderson
                      3- Carlon Brown
                      4- Kim Tillie
                      5-Chris Foster

                      It sounds like the freshman wing player from Fort Worth is going to play a lot. I figure Washburn, the RS freshman PG from Houston and Watkins will round out the top 9 who see action. Either Tavita or Cyphers will redshirt and most likely Cyphers as Tavita could be the 3rd pg if needed. Of the projected 9 contributors it is two true freshman, two redshirt freshman, one sophmore, two juniors and two seniors. The U could be really good for a few years again starting next year.
                      Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                      -General George S. Patton

                      I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                      -DOCTOR Wuap

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                        I read where Jay Watkins is out 6 weeks. Does he have a redshirt available? It might be difficult to find himself and his role after missing the rest of the preseason and the first month of the season.

                        I think the Utes have some really promising prospects. It sounded like the tentative starting 5 is:

                        1- Luca Drca
                        2- Marshall Henderson
                        3- Carlon Brown
                        4- Kim Tillie
                        5-Chris Foster

                        It sounds like the freshman wing player from Fort Worth is going to play a lot. I figure Washburn, the RS freshman PG from Houston and Watkins will round out the top 9 who see action. Either Tavita or Cyphers will redshirt and most likely Cyphers as Tavita could be the 3rd pg if needed. Of the projected 9 contributors it is two true freshman, two redshirt freshman, one sophmore, two juniors and two seniors. The U could be really good for a few years again starting next year.
                        Any team starting Drca at the 1 will not win many games. Reminds me of the Jazz when they start Palacios. Utah should go with a freshman or Tavita and get them some experience.
                        *Banned*

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                          Any team starting Drca at the 1 will not win many games. Reminds me of the Jazz when they start Palacios. Utah should go with a freshman or Tavita and get them some experience.
                          What if we bring him off the bench to keep him out of foul trouble?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                            Any team starting Drca at the 1 will not win many games. Reminds me of the Jazz when they start Palacios. Utah should go with a freshman or Tavita and get them some experience.
                            I have been saying this since last year, the Utes need to start Carlon Brown at PG and Drca needs to be a full time SG.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                              I have been saying this since last year, the Utes need to start Carlon Brown at PG and Drca needs to be a full time SG.

                              I don't mind Drca moving to SG, but I don't like Brown at point guard at all. Yes, it gives him the chance to be creative with the ball, but he can do that on the wing where he is not responsible for getting everyone involved in the offense. That would be big trouble.

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