Confirmed: Attorney General Sean Reyes is a wanker

[Jeff Lebowski]

And I understand your perspective on this is skewed by your wife’s involvement. And you probably think that provides you more insight and enlightenment on the level of pervasiveness, but in actuality it likely makes this appear to be a more prominent issue than it is. Much like one realizes there are a lot of [insert color/make/model] cars on the road when you buy one of those. I’m not faulting you for that. Just pointing it out.

This is a very real phenomenon by the way.

[Donuthole]

This is a very real phenomenon by the way.

Indeed. And while there are no more of those on the road than there were previously, it sure seems like there are to the person who now has a psychological investment in the concept.

[tooblue]

And I understand your perspective on this is skewed by your wife’s involvement. And you probably think that provides you more insight and enlightenment on the level of pervasiveness, but in actuality it likely makes this appear to you to be a more prominent issue than it actually is. Much like one suddenly notices there are a lot of [insert color/make/model] cars on the road after he buys one of those. In actuality, there are no more on the road than before. I’m not faulting you for that. Just pointing it out. o

None of that changes the fact that the issue is pervasive and that there is no quip about physiology that can excuse your indifference.

[frank ryan]

50k a year trafficked? No shot.

That means over the last 20 years 1 million girls have been trafficked? 2 million parents have lost a child and 4 million grandparents?

Obviously not everyone has kids, not everyone has grandkids etc, people die, but tell me how my rationale is wrong. Does anyone know any family, friend, friend of a friend that has someone that’s been trafficked?

I know cops in town and I’ve talked to them about this. Las Vegas is, according to them, the number one trafficking place in the country and it’s never a 16 year old, it’s a 22 year old Ukrainian or 21 year old Thai working off immigration debt through sex work. And rarely do these women turn in their handlers since most are complicit.

Depending on the definition of human trafficking, 50k is believable. You have to consider drug addicts selling themselves and their kids. It's warped but I work with individuals who've gone through things like that regularly.

[fusnik]

Depending on the definition of human trafficking, 50k is believable. You have to consider drug addicts selling themselves and their kids. It's warped but I work with individuals who've gone through things like that regularly.

According to my friends they count ‘everything’ as trafficking because theres an emphasis from the DOJ which grants them access to federal dollars.

I don’t doubt that there are people that do awful things but the numbers just don’t ring true. Again we are the trafficking capitol of the US and my friends in the DEA and at Metro have seen very few cases of ‘legitimate’ trafficking.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I think sometimes these groups want to just assume that any sex worker is trafficked into it. There isn't really an acknowledgement that there are women that choose sex work.

[tooblue]

I think sometimes these groups want to just assume that any sex worker is trafficked into it. There isn't really an acknowledgement that there are women that choose sex work.

https://rems.ed.gov/docs/Human%20Tra...nd%20Staff.pdf

The average age a girl enters the commercial sex trade is 12–14 years old. For boys, it’s even younger – just 11–13 years old.

No 11 - 14 year old is choosing sex work willingly.

[Solon]

Not to mention his series of bogus history books targeted at gullible church members. Can't stand that guy.

"Bogus" is a generous term.
Don't read these books.
They make a person dumber.

[Eddie]

This is a very real phenomenon by the way.

When I started doing child abuse investigations is also when my wife and I decided our children wouldn't ever have sleepovers with friends. I have a general sense of the scope of abuse happening during sleepovers - and it isn't necessarily common. But common enough I was dealing with it regularly and wanted to avoid that for my kids.

According to my friends they count ‘everything’ as trafficking because theres an emphasis from the DOJ which grants them access to federal dollars.

I don’t doubt that there are people that do awful things but the numbers just don’t ring true. Again we are the trafficking capitol of the US and my friends in the DEA and at Metro have seen very few cases of ‘legitimate’ trafficking.

If we're talking "trafficking", that's different than "sex trafficking".

I was in a training a couple of years ago with the SLC Metro police talking about their trafficking work - and one of the things they talked about was that often people being trafficked don't even know they're being trafficked. They gave the example that was described as a "domestic servitude" case - some kids who were living at home with their families but being used to traffic drugs - working without being paid but with threats of violence or blackmail.

So - if we're really talking about ALL kinds of trafficking - 50K a year doesn't sound like a huge stretch to me. If we're talking just sex trafficking - it likely is.

[fusnik]

When I started doing child abuse investigations is also when my wife and I decided our children wouldn't ever have sleepovers with friends. I have a general sense of the scope of abuse happening during sleepovers - and it isn't necessarily common. But common enough I was dealing with it regularly and wanted to avoid that for my kids.



If we're talking "trafficking", that's different than "sex trafficking".

I was in a training a couple of years ago with the SLC Metro police talking about their trafficking work - and one of the things they talked about was that often people being trafficked don't even know they're being trafficked. They gave the example that was described as a "domestic servitude" case - some kids who were living at home with their families but being used to traffic drugs - working without being paid but with threats of violence or blackmail.

So - if we're really talking about ALL kinds of trafficking - 50K a year doesn't sound like a huge stretch to me. If we're talking just sex trafficking - it likely is.

Sounds like a cash grab to me.

5 years ago it was the cartels. Anything that involved the cartels the local agencies were able to tap into federal dollars for overtime, surveillance, etc, so everything that could be ‘investigated’ as cartel behavior became cartel behavior. Allegedly 10% of homes in an ultra exclusive neighborhood next door to mine were owned by Mexican cartels. We’re talking minimum 1 million dollar homes in a huge guard gated community.

Now those same homes are owned by the Russians and Mexicans for trafficking purposes. The crime organizations have ‘evolved’ to trafficking people all of a sudden.

I’m not saying awful things don’t happen and that people don’t unknowingly become victims but the rhetoric surrounding this just doesn’t seem real.

[MartyFunkhouser]

https://rems.ed.gov/docs/Human%20Tra...nd%20Staff.pdf



No 11 - 14 year old is choosing sex work willingly.

Agreed. I'm talking about the adult sex workers who made the choice when they are adults.

[Bo Diddley]

Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for Reyes.

https://www.ksl.com/article/50789002...enerals-office

More than two dozen lawmakers, the majority of whom are Republican, have formally requested a legislative audit to investigate parts of the Utah Attorney General's Office and Attorney General Sean Reyes' relationship with Operation Underground Railroad founder Tim Ballard.

Specifically, the 26 lawmakers want to know whether Reyes and Ballard's relationship involved any state resources, or whether that relationship impeded Reyes' "impartiality or prosecutorial discretion." They also want to know whether that relationship involved any "engagement" by Reyes with any outside prosecutors.

[USUC]

Not running for reelection

https://www.ksl.com/article/50813936...ed-tim-ballard

[Jeff Lebowski]

Not running for reelection

https://www.ksl.com/article/50813936...ed-tim-ballard

[Bo Diddley]

Not running for reelection

https://www.ksl.com/article/50813936...ed-tim-ballard