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  • #16
    Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
    Hey wuap, you don't like me. I get it. Go away.
    I try to like you. I've tried to help you. I thought that you were on a good course with this thread, but then you get all Lingoish and I V8-smack my head.

    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • #17
      Blind faith tends to result in extreme action, like we see with the crusades. But when it comes to partisan politics, I believe you're mistaking adherence for faith.
      Do people not believe certain tenets of political ideology? Believe in them even if there is not ironclad proof that they are correct?

      You forget that people may religiously (if you will) subscribe to a doctrine without having much faith in that doctrine or its primary proponents.
      Of course. Many people use religious beliefs and values to further other, non-religious goals.

      See, the crusades were a result of blind faith in a religious ideology and its leaders. Partisan politics, on the other hand, inspires adherence, but no faith whatsoever.
      I don't agree. Like I said, the healthcare debate comes down to whether you believe the government can pull this off or not. As this cannot be empirically proved, I'd say it is blind faith.

      So the pervasive sentiment toward American politics is not fanaticism at all, but rather apathy.
      This seems an odd close to your paragraph; it doesn't relate to the preceding statements at all that I can see.

      But regardless, I wasn't talking about the pervasive sentiment toward American politics. I was talking about the people who are interested in politics and how they relate to those who disagree with them.

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      • #18
        I don't know about you guys, but I am ready to kill anyone that stands in the way of universal healthcare. I don't care if I die in the process. You are all forewarned!
        Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          I don't know about you guys, but I am ready to kill anyone that stands in the way of universal healthcare. I don't care if I die in the process. You are all forewarned!
          I hate the idea of universal healthcare. Bring it on, pal. Unlike you, I exercise my 2nd Amendment rights.
          "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


          "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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          • #20
            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
            I don't know about you guys, but I am ready to kill anyone that stands in the way of universal healthcare. I don't care if I die in the process. You are all forewarned!
            Absolutely. Greater love hath no man than this: that he would lay down his life for lower copays.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
              I hate the idea of universal healthcare. Bring it on, pal. Unlike you, I exercise my 2nd Amendment rights.
              lol! you sound like a religious fanatic from the Crusades!

              You can't even empirically prove that universal healthcare won't work, and yet you are blindly against it!

              It is a shame that I am going to have to martyr myself at your expense. Whenever we hang out, I enjoy myself.
              Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Babs View Post
                Absolutely. Greater love hath no man than this: that he would lay down his life for lower copays.
                Thou shalt not steal (from the haves to give to those who choose not to have).
                "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                  Thou shalt not steal (from the haves to give to those who choose not to have).
                  be careful, now. There are people out there who will fight to the death on behalf of a welfare state.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    lol! you sound like a religious fanatic from the Crusades!

                    You can't even empirically prove that universal healthcare won't work, and yet you are blindly against it!

                    It is a shame that I am going to have to martyr myself at your expense. Whenever we hang out, I enjoy myself.
                    Amtrack - FAIL
                    USPS - FAILing
                    Social Security - Bankrupt
                    Medicare and Medicaid - on the verge of bankruptcy

                    Precedent, my friend, has been set on government run entities.

                    A martyr is only a martyr if folks think he's sincere.
                    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                    "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Babs View Post
                      be careful, now. There are people out there who will fight to the death on behalf of a welfare state.
                      They're all talk.
                      "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                      "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                      • #26
                        Know what Babs? Screw you. I tried.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                          Amtrack - FAIL
                          USPS - FAILing
                          Social Security - Bankrupt
                          Medicare and Medicaid - on the verge of bankruptcy
                          quit being so negative!
                          Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            quit being so negative!
                            I will not stop being negative. Never.
                            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                              Know what Babs? Screw you. I tried.
                              nope, lingo. *I* tried. I tried not to tell you what I really thought of your post, but you mailed me and insisted that I post. Even then I didn't respond, as I had no desire to spend half an hour outlining just how absurd your commentary was. But still undeterred, you had to go call me out publicly.

                              So, honestly, lingo, what did you expect? I told you what I thought, and I played it straight. No sarcasm, non cheap shots. Just the facts. It was you that came back with the catty "let it go, babs" coda.

                              So don't come around selling the victim card, lingo. Nobody's buying it.

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                              • #30
                                Lingo, Lingo, Lingo...

                                Sometimes I really have hope for you. Then you crash and burn with a thread like this. Argh.

                                Babs gave you a great reply. I can't believe you felt the need to respond like that. And you wonder why so few people like to engage you in debate or answer your questions.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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