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  • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
    If something was found about trump and epstein would he be impeached ?
    I should have called my shot earlier in the Trump thread immediately post-election, but I totally think that Trump is going to get impeached again before it's all over. Whether over this or something else, if the Dems take the house it is happening, no question.

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    • This morning I heard someone speculate that while there is likely not anything in the Epstein files that would seriously implicate Trump, there is almost certainly a trove of information damaging to big-money donors to Trump.

      Makes the most sense of anything I can think of.
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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        This morning I heard someone speculate that while there is likely not anything in the Epstein files that would seriously implicate Trump, there is almost certainly a trove of information damaging to big-money donors to Trump.

        Makes the most sense of anything I can think of.
        I don't think anyone will really be implicated in the release of the files. The corruption is such a bipartisan effort that any serious effort to root it out is essentially mutually assured destruction. Maybe a scapegoat or two thrown in by each side, but nobody of real consequence or influence.

        I mean, just look at Epstein. He was a former convict registered sex offender and he's coaching the former president of Harvard and Treasury Secretary on how to rizz up grad students. He was giving pointers to a congresswoman during a hearing. He was getting tipped off by a NYT reporter. Bill Gates was his friend to the end. Sure maybe a few people will get sent to timeout, but they'll come back. Maybe with an asterisk by their name for a while, but people forget. They'll stop remembering why it was a big deal.

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        • I speculate that whatever these files are, they aren't treasure troves of damning information that implicates anyone. The only reason to keep records like that is if you were going to use them to blackmail people. If I had a private airplane, private island, and billions of dollars, I certainly wouldn't keep records of my sex trafficking crimes.

          If Trump were implicated, the Biden camp would have found a way to release the records.

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          • Originally posted by YOhio View Post

            I don't think anyone will really be implicated in the release of the files. The corruption is such a bipartisan effort that any serious effort to root it out is essentially mutually assured destruction. Maybe a scapegoat or two thrown in by each side, but nobody of real consequence or influence.

            I mean, just look at Epstein. He was a former convict registered sex offender and he's coaching the former president of Harvard and Treasury Secretary on how to rizz up grad students. He was giving pointers to a congresswoman during a hearing. He was getting tipped off by a NYT reporter. Bill Gates was his friend to the end. Sure maybe a few people will get sent to timeout, but they'll come back. Maybe with an asterisk by their name for a while, but people forget. They'll stop remembering why it was a big deal.
            Oh I don't think any criminal charges will come out of the release. That would have happened already, of course. But I am sure there will be a bunch of shaming going on for a while. Then we can all get some closure and move on.
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            • Originally posted by wally View Post

              I should have called my shot earlier in the Trump thread immediately post-election, but I totally think that Trump is going to get impeached again before it's all over. Whether over this or something else, if the Dems take the house it is happening, no question.
              When this happens I'm curious what Vance does, does he stand by Trump or throw him underneath the bus. My guess is he tries to distance himself from Trump because any association with Trump will be toxic and he's got big plans.

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              • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post

                When this happens I'm curious what Vance does, does he stand by Trump or throw him underneath the bus. My guess is he tries to distance himself from Trump because any association with Trump will be toxic and he's got big plans.
                Been thinking about this for a little bit too (not in the context of an impeachment, but in general). Vance is gonna have to be nimble to take any advantage that presents itself. the Repubs are having a little scuffle over what a post-MAGA conservative wing looks like right now, and no way to know if folks will fall back in line approaching the next election.

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                • Originally posted by wally View Post

                  Been thinking about this for a little bit too (not in the context of an impeachment, but in general). Vance is gonna have to be nimble to take any advantage that presents itself. the Repubs are having a little scuffle over what a post-MAGA conservative wing looks like right now, and no way to know if folks will fall back in line approaching the next election.
                  My personal belief is that once Trump no longer has the ability to throw his weight around in the party, the ship will right itself. It has too.

                  If it doesn't, the two political parties with be the Democrats and the Democratic Socialists.

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                  • Originally posted by wally View Post

                    Been thinking about this for a little bit too (not in the context of an impeachment, but in general). Vance is gonna have to be nimble to take any advantage that presents itself. the Repubs are having a little scuffle over what a post-MAGA conservative wing looks like right now, and no way to know if folks will fall back in line approaching the next election.
                    I think Vance is way too punchable to gain any kind of national following.
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                    • This is super clever.

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                      • Looks like we are going to get some more files dumped today..

                        The Department of Justice has announced that more Epstein Files will be released today. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche told reporters at a Justice Department briefing that the material being made public today exceeds 3 million pages and includes roughly 2,000 videos and 180,000 images

                        Earlier in the month, the department had estimated that it had disclosed under 1% of its records related to Epstein. Congress has set a deadline of December 19, 2025, for the department to release all remaining Epstein files. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche said at a press conference: "Today, we are producing more than 3 million pages, including more than 2,000 videos and 180,000 images in total, that means that the department produced approximately three and a half million pages in compliance with the act."
                        https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...l-released-usa

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                        • Some juicy things coming out of the recent files. Wonder how long before Bondi is fired for allowing these to be released and the Deputy Director who is overseeing it..

                          Trump mentioned over a 1,000 times in latest pages dropped. Trump getting bit after receiving oral sex.. Bill Gates getting a STD from a Russia girl..

                          Disgusting..
                          The latest round of claims are similar to those of a 2016 civil lawsuit which was filed under a pseudonym. It accused the Mr Trump and Epstein of raping a 13-year-old girl, Fox News reports, at a party hosted by the paedophile financier in 1994.

                          It was reported that the lawsuit described similar acts in which Mr Trump allegedly tied the plaintiff to a bed, raped her, and then threatened her family if she spoke out. Epstein was alleged to have also raped the plaintiff.
                          https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-released-news


                          Jeffrey Epstein says Bill Gates caught sexually transmitted disease from 'Russian girls'... then suggested secretly slipping Melinda antibiotics, new emails in DOJ release claim
                          Bill Gates slept with Russian girls, got a sexually-transmitted disease and asked for antibiotics to slip to his then-wife Melinda, extraordinary new Jeffrey Epstein files from the Department of Justice allege.

                          The late pedophile financier made the astonishing claims about the Microsoft billionaire in emails he sent to himself on July 18, 2013.

                          The lengthy message lashed out at Gates for ending their friendship and says: 'TO add insult to the injury you them (sic) implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std, your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis.'
                          He wrote: 'I have been caught up in a severe marital dispute between Melinda and Bill...

                          'In my role as his right hand man I have been asked and wrongly acquiesced into participating in things that have ranged from the morally inappropriate, to the ethically unsound and have been repeatedly asked to do thing (sic) that get near and potentially over the line into the illegal...

                          'From helping Bill to get drugs, in order to deal with consequences of sex with russian girls, to facilitating his illicit trusts, with married women, to being asked to provide adderall fro (sic) bridge touramnts (sic), as I am a medial doctor, but have no presriptions (sic) writing ability.

                          The shocking claims about the Microsoft founder have not been verified and come from a new tranche of hundreds of thousands of documents released by the Department of Justice on Friday morning.

                          The Daily Mail has contacted Bill and Melinda Gates for comment.
                          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tibiotics.html

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                          • Adderall for a bridge tournament?
                            I don't play bridge. Are the stakes that high? Are there aunties and grandmas that will riot if someone misplays a suit?

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                            • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                              Some juicy things coming out of the recent files.
                              Using the word "juicy" to describe anything in or associated with the Epstein is crazy work.

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                              • So is the release of the Melanie film a distraction from the Epstein file release, or the other way around?

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