Utah Senator Mitt Romney Thread

[smokymountainrain]

Purity tests are bad.

Having said that there are some things that should be non-negotiables. I think defeating Trumpism is one of those.

My Trump loving friends can never answer a simple question, besides the racism, name calling, and indecency what did a Trump presidency give you that Jeb or Marco wouldn’t have?

I like that.

[beefytee]

Got it you are team you want your tribe to win.

I’m on team America.

If choosing your battles and avoiding purity tests is trying to get your tribe to win, I guess so.

I'd rather have Sasse and Romney in the Senate and pushing back on the important issues than purely principled people who are out of public life now.

[fusnik]

If choosing your battles and avoiding purity tests is trying to get your tribe to win, I guess so.

I'd rather have Sasse and Romney in the Senate and pushing back on the important issues than purely principled people who are out of public life now.

When has Sasse pushed back on Trump? Leaked call after he got Orange Jesus’ endorsement?

Mitt and Sasse laid down on any important issue that could’ve been used to temper his behavior.

Who takes on the GOP mantle when this is over?

Mitt can’t. Sasse can’t. Hogan can’t.

Flake can. Weld can.

[Jeff Lebowski]

We view the threat of Trump differently. I see it as the biggest threat to our country since the Nazis.

I’m on team Flake on this one. I’m in opposition to most of his core beliefs but I could vote for him strictly based on his integrity.

Team vote RR or team vote for my wife, those folks can GTFO.

The Mitts, Sasses, Hogans, could have emerged from this as sterling examples of principled conservatives. Instead they go the Mitt route of 2012, pandering to the new extreme right in the event Trump wins.

Honestly at this point what’s the difference between Marsha Blackburn and Ben Sasse? Lindsey Graham and Mitt?

I’m trying to help the GOP here.

Totally agree on the first point. Disagree that purity-testing every moderate republican is helpful in dealing with that threat.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Ha. I am sitting here laughing that Mitt Romney can literally vote to impeach Trump and still be criticized for not being sufficiently anti-trump. Goodness gracious.

[fusnik]

Ha. I am sitting here laughing that Mitt Romney can literally vote to impeach Trump and still be criticized for not being sufficiently anti-trump. Goodness gracious.

I had serious issues with Mitts crazy 2012 run. He morphed from center right to far right to appease a group of people in the south that are hell bent on destroying America. His flirtation with birtherism was downright awful and almost unforgivable.

He’s done some things to atone for his mistakes I’ll give him that. But when he had a real opportunity to wrestle control of the party away from Trump he folded. He didn’t vote for witnesses, he’s going to confirm ACB, and he can’t even bring himself to vote for Biden.

Look at the Republican Party’s endorsements of candidates over the past 2 years. Conspiracy whackos, child predators and open racists. The Trump campaign is helping a loon that wants more dead children in the Mediterranean. Mark Meadows seat might go to a 25 year old who thinks it’s wrong to work for black people.

You are telling me he’s done sufficient work to stop or even curtail the behaviors of POTUS and the GOP?

[beefytee]

You are telling me he’s done sufficient work to stop or even curtail the behaviors of POTUS and the GOP?

You think Jeff Flake and Bill Weld have done more? Trump parades them around as his conquests. If anything they have emboldened the president.

Look, I actually really like Flake and am a big fan of Bill Weld. I happily voted for him in the primary. But you are being ridiculous.

[fusnik]

You think Jeff Flake and Bill Weld have done more? Trump parades them around as his conquests. If anything they have emboldened the president.

Look, I actually really like Flake and am a big fan of Bill Weld. I happily voted for him in the primary. But you are being ridiculous.

I think after this election we need a complete rehaul of the parties. The parties have to ask themselves how a socialist disrupted one and a loon took over the other.

To do that you need leaders who can step up and say no Bernie isn’t a representation of our party and no Trumpism isn’t republicanism.

The dems faced with this question in 2018 overwhelming nominated moderate candidates that represented their core beliefs and in 2020 kicked Bernie and AOCs ass out the door.

In 2018 the GOP nominated child predators and in 2020 leaned into the craziness that is Trump.

4 years from now Flake will have a legit shot at the presidency and Mitt will be limping into retirement wondering if he can start talking to his niece again.

[Clark Addison]

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[Lost Student]

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Is Mitt the guy Fus is shooting at?

[Clark Addison]

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Also, I don't know why I can't properly upload pics

[BigPiney]

Also, I don't know why I can't properly upload pics

I can see them

[Bo Diddley]

"I'm not telling you that! It's my constitutional right to participate in a secret ballot - I don't have to tell you anything!"

When people say this, I wonder if they understand the rules regarding ballots reside in their state constitution. So it's not really a Constitutional Right.

Incidentally, mail in ballots aren't completely secret. I wonder if that's why Trump is against them. People might be less likely to vote for him if they're found out.

[SeattleUte]

To say that Trump is the biggest threat to America since the Nazis shows how we really have had no real existential threats since the civil war nor will for the foreseeable future. The comment is kind of funny. The Nazis themselves were not an existential threat. I don’t think I missed the part where the Nazis bombed New York and the Wehrmacht stormed the Eastern seaboard. Had we not invaded France, the Soviet Union would have had the Nazis liquidated in the next year and then we’d have had a more serious Cold War problem. The biggest threat has undoubtedly been the Soviet Union, and it was most acute during the Cuban missile crisis.

Donald Trump is not a threat (I’ve voted—for Biden). He’s participating in an election, one that has as much integrity as anywhere, and were he to lose, the military is not about to help him hold onto power, even if he were so inclined, and he’s shown none of that. If he loses, which is likely, power will peacefully transition. He’s called the mainstream media biased against him, which is absolutely true, and he has a right to say that. But only through judicial process, which he’s respected, has he tried to deal any blow. There’s been no violence. He’s the most peaceable president in my lifetime. All bark and no bite militarily.

Remember this: Anyone who believes in free elections, free speech, private property, and the rule of law is part of the liberal tradition. That includes Trump, AOC, Bernie (not clear if he believes in private property, but I bet so in his heart of hearts). This hysteria is stupid. But keep making me laugh.

[SeattleUte]

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No. It’s Zach Wilson’s uncle in every thread.