Utah Senator Mitt Romney Thread

[Jeff Lebowski]

Another great post. And no highlights!

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[swampfrog]

Another great post. And no highlights!

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Right on the money. Both parties being careless.

[smokymountainrain]

Another great post. And no highlights!

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that's great. what conspiracy theory is he referring to?

[MartyFunkhouser]

that's great. what conspiracy theory is he referring to?

QAnon

[Flystripper]

that's great. what conspiracy theory is he referring to?

He retweeted a conspiracy theory that Seal Team 6 was murdered by Obama and Biden to cover up the fact that they killed Osama's body double and that he is at large. When pressed he said "I only retweeted it. I didn't create it. I retweet lots of stuff. Its up to the people to decide." Its despicable. He knows a retweet by the POTUS carries with it endorsement.

[fusnik]

Right on the money. Both parties being careless.

Good lord both sides.

Give me a Fn break.

One side consists of the the most powerful man in the world and the the majority in what should be the worlds best deliberative body. The other side has never retweeted BS from ANTFA.

It’s like Mitts tweet a couple days ago where he repudiated they president and followed that with repudiation of Keith Olbermann. Likening the POTUS with a former SC anchor, lol.

There’s a fundamentally difference between what one side is doing and the other side is doing. It’s not even in the same universe.

The second Joe endorses an ANTIFA candidate we can both sides it.

[Jeff Lebowski]

He retweeted a conspiracy theory that Seal Team 6 was murdered by Obama and Biden to cover up the fact that they killed Osama's body double and that he is at large. When pressed he said "I only retweeted it. I didn't create it. I retweet lots of stuff. Its up to the people to decide." Its despicable. He knows a retweet by the POTUS carries with it endorsement.

I loved Savannah Guthrie's response to that.

“I don’t get that. You’re the president — you’re not like someone’s crazy uncle who can just retweet whatever,”

I take back all the mean things I said about her when she was elevated to her current position.

[Pelado]

Good lord both sides.

Give me a Fn break.

One side consists of the the most powerful man in the world and the the majority in what should be the worlds best deliberative body. The other side has never retweeted BS from ANTFA.

It’s like Mitts tweet a couple days ago where he repudiated they president and followed that with repudiation of Keith Olbermann. Likening the POTUS with a former SC anchor, lol.

There’s a fundamentally difference between what one side is doing and the other side is doing. It’s not even in the same universe.

The second Joe endorses an ANTIFA candidate we can both sides it.

I don't see that as a "both sides are doing the same thing" argument. It names Trump specifically and all but one of the items listed (as far as I see) - refusing to repudiate antifa - are aimed at Trump and his backers.

It's more like when I'm disciplining my kids after a fight that was mostly instigated by one party. I address the minor issue from the one kid as well as the more egregious things the primary instigator did.

[Jeff Lebowski]

After reading the responses to each of Mitt's statements like this, I think this guy nailed it:

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[swampfrog]

Good lord both sides.

One side consists of the the most powerful man in the world and the the majority in what should be the worlds best deliberative body. The other side has never retweeted BS from ANTFA.

It’s like Mitts tweet a couple days ago where he repudiated they president and followed that with repudiation of Keith Olbermann. Likening the POTUS with a former SC anchor, lol.

Authoritarianism has many faces, the political one is often the easiest to see--and it's very concerning. However, to view the US (or world) primarily (or only) through the political power lens is myopic.

See Bari Weiss's latest treatise on the topic. Or this. Or this. Or Jonathan Haidt's/Greg Lukianoff's "The Coddling of the American Mind", or this.

There’s a fundamentally difference between what one side is doing and the other side is doing. It’s not even in the same universe.

That is absolutely true. Depending on how sides are defined.

In a nutshell:

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[frank ryan]

Good lord both sides.

Give me a Fn break.

One side consists of the the most powerful man in the world and the the majority in what should be the worlds best deliberative body. The other side has never retweeted BS from ANTFA.

It’s like Mitts tweet a couple days ago where he repudiated they president and followed that with repudiation of Keith Olbermann. Likening the POTUS with a former SC anchor, lol.

There’s a fundamentally difference between what one side is doing and the other side is doing. It’s not even in the same universe.

The second Joe endorses an ANTIFA candidate we can both sides it.

He's the same poster who positing some bizarro defense for Rittenhouse in Kenosha. That's probably the best we can expect from swampfrog.

[Commando]

I find Mitt's equivalencies in his writings to be laughable and disingenuous. I understand why he puts them in there, though, and it should be obvious to everybody. Who can blame him?

[frank ryan]

I don't see that as a "both sides are doing the same thing" argument. It names Trump specifically and all but one of the items listed (as far as I see) - refusing to repudiate antifa - are aimed at Trump and his backers.

It's more like when I'm disciplining my kids after a fight that was mostly instigated by one party. I address the minor issue from the one kid as well as the more egregious things the primary instigator did.

I’ve written about this in other threads but the problem with Democrats disowning anarchists is there isn’t really a link. Anarchists (because that is what antifa has come to be shorthand for instead of it’s actual meaning) see them as just as illegitimate as Republicans. They don’t revere or respond to Biden and he hasn’t dog-whistled them.
Nazis used to have disdain for Republicans but after they softened their image had their ranks increased by gamers, ex-libertarians and conspiracy theorists, and a few ex-leftist extremists, toned down some of their rhetoric (white nationalist, European heritage etc) and rebranded themselves as altright, Trump and people like Tucker Carlson have brought them in from the cold.
Mitt, whom I admire, was a bit sweeping in his false equivalency. Part of the problem with that is one side has been responsible for the vast majority of domestic terrorism in our lifetimes. I strongly suspect I’m the only person in this cyber-community who was familiar with Antifa before Charlottesville, and that’s because they are not a powerful menacing thread that Trump is fundraising around them being.

[falafel]

I find Mitt's equivalencies in his writings to be laughable and disingenuous. I understand why he puts them in there, though, and it should be obvious to everybody. Who can blame him?

Dang, I knew you were swinging hard to the left, but when did you go full frank ryan?

[Commando]

Dang, I knew you were swinging hard to the left, but when did you go full frank ryan?

Are you saying you blame Mitt for pandering to his right-of-center base by tsk tsk-ing Democrats for some nominal offense so that Republicans don't feel picked on and singled out? I don't. It's what any responsible parent does with their children. He can't just tell Trump-supporting Republicans to fuck off like he probably wants to.