President Trump: Making America Great Again...

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[Northwestcoug]

That's awesome.

[Jeff Lebowski]

The internet response to Trump has been hilarious.

[Shaka]

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[BigFatMeanie]

I think a sizeable part of the population (and maybe even a couple of people here) would challenge that premise. As in, how can we even know with precision what happened in the past? And then they would most definitely deny that man-made climate change is real, or at least not as important as the scientific consensus states that it is.

I would totally challenge that premise (“the earth's climate is changing much, much faster than ever before in earth's history (other than due to being hit by an asteroid)”).

Also, I don’t know what the statement “man-made climate change is real” even means. Without quantification, clarification, and validation the statement is just a meaningless slogan that folks like you wield as a purity test.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I would totally challenge that premise (“the earth's climate is changing much, much faster than ever before in earth's history (other than due to being hit by an asteroid)”).

Also, I don’t know what the statement “man-made climate change is real” even means. Without quantification, clarification, and validation the statement is just a meaningless slogan that folks like you wield as a purity test.

It means human activity is altering the earths climate. Why is that unclear?

[BigFatMeanie]

It means human activity is altering the earths climate. Why is that unclear?

Are humans exclusively altering the earth’s climate or is it contributory altering? If contributory, is there some percentage or threshold of contributory altering that we would want to validate before we affirmed the slogan “man-made climate change is real”?

[PaloAltoCougar]

I would totally challenge that premise (“the earth's climate is changing much, much faster than ever before in earth's history (other than due to being hit by an asteroid)”).

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Challenge away! I overswung by saying “in earth’s history,” as who knows what was going on four billion years ago? And I speak not of the amount of change long ago--temps in the polar regions may have averaged in the 90s Fahrenheit long ago. But it’s the rate of change that should concern Bessent and other policymakers, as the current rate of climate change is unprecedented.

There are countless authorities who confirm this, including NASA (‘While Earth’s climate has changed throughout its history, the current warming is happening at a rate not seen in the past 10,000 years”); MIT (“While the PETM [Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum] shows us that greenhouse gases have warmed the Earth in the past, today’s human-caused climate change is happening much faster.”]; CSIRO (Australia’s national science agency: “Evidence from air trapped in ice cores shows that the current rate of warming is occurring at a faster rate than has occurred in thousands of years. Recent warming has occurred about 10 times faster than warming at the end of an ice age. The increase of carbon dioxide due to human activities is occurring more than 250 times faster than at the end of the last Ice Age.”); NOAA; the IPCC, etc.

Why do you challenge the premise?

[Northwestcoug]

I would totally challenge that premise (“the earth's climate is changing much, much faster than ever before in earth's history (other than due to being hit by an asteroid)”).

Also, I don’t know what the statement “man-made climate change is real” even means. Without quantification, clarification, and validation the statement is just a meaningless slogan that folks like you wield as a purity test.

I'm not wielding anything as a purity test. I'm simply stating the fact that people (like you?) dispute those claims for one reason or another.

But since the purity test is out there, I guess I'll state on record that I believe that observable climate change is real, and the preponderance of evidence is that the majority of what we've witnessed in this recent age is due to humanity.