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  • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
    oh, brother
    Wonder if he feels the same about inner city black people? Middle America sure has ample advice for other communities.

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    • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
      Wonder if he feels the same about inner city black people? Middle America sure has ample advice for other communities.
      I'm still here; you can ask me. While you're at it how about explaining why you think I would feel differently about inner city black communities.

      Middle America wants to live by their rules and not rules imposed on them by people who don't live in their same circumstances. Of course they have opinions about issues- everyone does- but they didn't oppose Hillary because she refused to impose their will on Urban America. I realize it's just easier to label the anti-hillary crowd racists and bigots but it smacks of smug elitism and intellectual laziness.

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      • Speaking of middle American, Helena, MT. took down their confederate monument:

        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/helena-...rate-memorial/

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        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
          Speaking of middle American, Helena, MT. took down their confederate monument:

          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/helena-...rate-memorial/


          About 20 people gathered to protest Friday
          That's like half the city. And why does Montana have a confederate monument anyway?
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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post




            That's like half the city. And why does Montana have a confederate monument anyway?
            They have them all over, California, Idaho etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tes_of_America

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            • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
              They have them all over, California, Idaho etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tes_of_America
              Zero in Utah.

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              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post




                That's like half the city. And why does Montana have a confederate monument anyway?
                That's what I was going to ask.

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Nor in Wyoming. Strange, us being such racists and all.
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                  • Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                    Nor in Wyoming. Strange, us being such racists and all.
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                    • Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                      Nor in Wyoming. Strange, us being such racists and all.
                      how about the matthew shepard monument?
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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        They have them all over, California, Idaho etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tes_of_America
                        Fake news. Idaho doesn't.
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                        • One of the weirdest monuments I've seen is Robert E. Lee Elementary school in Wenatchee, WA. Built in 1955, apparently as an homage to Southern farmers who emigrated there during the dust bowl. Out of all the American schools named after the confederacy, It looks most lonely:

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                          According to this article, there was a debate about changing the name after the Charleston massacre. 90%(!) voted to keep the name as is.

                          https://www.inlander.com/Bloglander/...nging-its-name

                          Is there any reason, at all, to have a school in Washington named after a confederate general? And even if there was in the past, is there a reason now to keep it? I think this is a perfectly good example of how powerful the 'what's done is done/it's ancient history/no reason to rewrite history' inertia is in conservative circles. I guess it also doubles as a nice check to remind any African American families of their place that might live there...
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                          • It bothers me that the white nationalists have hijacked the word "conservative"

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                            • Only 140 in my state. Looks like we are pretty clean.

                              IMO the SPLC is fudging the numbers a bit. I looked at the ones in my city, and I am familiar with a couple of them, as I walk by them quite a bit. For example, one is listed as "Monument" with the description of "Last Meetings of the Confederate Cabinet Marker". That's true, as far as it goes, but this is a "North Carolina Historical Marker". The state has them all over the place, and it is basically a metal plaque on a pole. I attached a google image search below, which coincidentally has the marker referenced by the SPLC. The full text is:

                              "Confederate Cabinet with President Davis held last full meetings April 22-26, 1865 in a house which was located here"

                              Hardly a rousing call for the South to rise again, especially when you see that there are markers about Sherman's march and the civil rights movement in the same search results.

                              Having said that, I'm sure in the 140 that are listed we have a few dozen questionable ones.

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                              • Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
                                Only 140 in my state. Looks like we are pretty clean.

                                IMO the SPLC is fudging the numbers a bit. I looked at the ones in my city, and I am familiar with a couple of them, as I walk by them quite a bit. For example, one is listed as "Monument" with the description of "Last Meetings of the Confederate Cabinet Marker". That's true, as far as it goes, but this is a "North Carolina Historical Marker". The state has them all over the place, and it is basically a metal plaque on a pole. I attached a google image search below, which coincidentally has the marker referenced by the SPLC. The full text is:

                                "Confederate Cabinet with President Davis held last full meetings April 22-26, 1865 in a house which was located here"

                                Hardly a rousing call for the South to rise again, especially when you see that there are markers about Sherman's march and the civil rights movement in the same search results.

                                Having said that, I'm sure in the 140 that are listed we have a few dozen questionable ones.
                                Yeah, nobody should have a problem with historical markers.
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