President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[New Mexican Disaster]

Well, he already had some posts about Flynn being a Democrat.

He's probably formulating his talking points with Hannity right now.

[myboynoah]

Trump reveled in leaks that hurt Hillary Clinton. He now calls administration disclosures ‘un-American’.

[Applejack]

I have to say that the first month of the Trump presidency has gone just about like I expected.

Just wait! The best is yet to come!

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[Topper]

The Remake of Government will be fascinating to watch.

At stake: the Institution of the Presidency, the world Status of the United States as a military and economic leader, the Administrative State, the Economy, including world trade order, Immigration and the Judiciary.

Not much at stake, but Trump came to DC as a revolutionary force, and these forces are not easily controlled once unleashed. The Dems are fighting for their geographical demographic lives and are engaging in nuclear options. Trump, no respecter of convention or history, is intent on nuking the government systems from inside. As a historian, these times will be interesting to reflect upon, but as an onlooker or player, there is reason for trepidation.

[byu71]

Just because Manafort resigned, doesn't mean he still wasn't unofficially involved in advising or serving Trump. Carter Page is another guy, not on his current staff who has serious ties to Russia.
I want an investigation too. You don't get to blame the media or Democrats for lack of an investigation.

No on this one I don't. Now the investigations into things that went on during President Obama's Presidency I get to because most of the media and dems just sat on their butts (I plagerized someone here) or obstructed the investigation.

[byu71]

Trump reveled in leaks that hurt Hillary Clinton. He now calls administration disclosures ‘un-American’.

They are all hypocrites worried about themselves. The dems were all concerned about leaks that hurt Hillary and themselves. Which is worse to get leaked on by the Russians or your own intelligence service? They all deserved to get leaked on.

[frank ryan]

The Remake of Government will be fascinating to watch.

At stake: the Institution of the Presidency, the world Status of the United States as a military and economic leader, the Administrative State, the Economy, including world trade order, Immigration and the Judiciary.

Not much at stake, but Trump came to DC as a revolutionary force, and these forces are not easily controlled once unleashed. The Dems are fighting for their geographical demographic lives and are engaging in nuclear options. Trump, no respecter of convention or history, is intent on nuking the government systems from inside. As a historian, these times will be interesting to reflect upon, but as an onlooker or player, there is reason for trepidation.

Democrats are doing fine demographically. Without extreme Gerrymandering the GOP would be a shell of itself. Clinton got over 3 million more votes than Trump. Trump snuck into power he didn't ride in with any sort of mandate.

[SeattleUte]

I've been saying since December that Trump would be impeached because of the Russian hack (it's in writing and I have witnesses). It's hardly far fetched. In the past 42 years a president has resigned to avoid certain impeachment and conviction, and another president has been impeached albeit acquitted. Trump has so many enemies who are just the ones to bring him down. The CIA hates him; it was the CIA that destroyed Flynn, and they have access to all the dirt on Trump. All the credible press hates him; the Wall Street Journal editors are in a civil war over him, and that paper's owned by Rupert Murdock. Even Fox has reporters who hate him. Pence is greasing the slide.

This is precisely the same crime as Watergate, but they may even get a smoking gun that Trump knew about it before it happened--Nixon only tried to cover up. Trump could be committing impeachable offenses now if he's obstructing justice in any way, which is how they got Clinton as well as Nixon. He's caught in the web; he's a dead man. They'll find some smoking gun. The great thing is that he'll fall prey to his most glaring weakness; hubris and a callousness about grave matters. He'll go down in history like Aaron Burr; one of the worst villains in U.S. history, but much more of a buffoon and a farce.

Nixon was one of the most popular presidents in history when the WP started running its stories, and the Watergate break in was originally a little noticed local story. Nixon won reelection in maybe the biggest landslide in history, taking maybe 48 states. He was popular among conservatives for his “silent majority” shtick, and hatred for hippies, but liberals too were supportive because he started EPA, of his meetings with China, of the nuclear arms disarmament treaties with Russia, and efforts to bring peace between the PLO and Israel. Trump didn’t win the popular vote and has many enemies among powerful Republicans.

There is something more sinister about a Russian hack than a bungled nighttime burglary in DNC headquarters. Much of the country believed Watergate was just politics and much ado about nothing; many people still do. It was the elites, the Supreme Court and the Washington Post and the New York Times and Congress that finally brought down Nixon—on grounds of principle, not only because of politics. I don’t see anyone trivializing the Russian hack.

Now the NYT has a secret inside source at the CIA like the WP did.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/u...e-iphone-share

The contacts in the year before the election were revealed by intercepted communications, according to four current and former senior American officials.

[myboynoah]

lol, Trump says Flynn was the subject of unfair media attacks.

[byu71]

I've been saying since December that Trump would be impeached because of the Russian hack (it's in writing and I have witnesses). It's hardly far fetched. In the past 42 years a president has resigned to avoid certain impeachment and conviction, and another president has been impeached albeit acquitted. Trump has so many enemies who are just the ones to bring him down. The CIA hates him; it was the CIA that destroyed Flynn, and they have access to all the dirt on Trump. All the credible press hates him; the Wall Street Journal editors are in a civil war over him, and that paper's owned by Rupert Murdock. Even Fox has reporters who hate him. Pence is greasing the slide.

This is precisely the same crime as Watergate, but they may even get a smoking gun that Trump knew about it before it happened--Nixon only tried to cover up. Trump could be committing impeachable offenses now if he's obstructing justice in any way, which is how they got Clinton as well as Nixon. He's caught in the web; he's a dead man. They'll find some smoking gun. The great thing is that he'll fall prey to his most glaring weakness; hubris and a callousness about grave matters. He'll go down in history like Aaron Burr; one of the worst villains in U.S. history, but much more of a buffoon and a farce.

Nixon was one of the most popular presidents in history when the WP started running its stories, and the Watergate break in was originally a little noticed local story. Nixon won reelection in maybe the biggest landslide in history, taking maybe 48 states. He was popular among conservatives for his “silent majority” shtick, and hatred for hippies, but liberals too were supportive because he started EPA, of his meetings with China, of the nuclear arms disarmament treaties with Russia, and efforts to bring peace between the PLO and Israel. Trump didn’t win the popular vote and has many enemies among powerful Republicans.

There is something more sinister about a Russian hack than a bungled nighttime burglary in DNC headquarters. Much of the country believed Watergate was just politics and much ado about nothing; many people still do. It was the elites, the Supreme Court and the Washington Post and the New York Times and Congress that finally brought down Nixon—on grounds of principle, not only because of politics. I don’t see anyone trivializing the Russian hack.

Now the NYT has a secret inside source at the CIA like the WP did.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/u...e-iphone-share

The contacts in the year before the election were revealed by intercepted communications, according to four current and former senior American officials.

You could be right. A stopped clock is right twice a day. Your analysis and predictions are even a bit better than that.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Interesting thoughts, SU. If Trump goes the way of Nixon, I hope the American people react as they did back in the '70s. As I recall, a great many of Nixon's supporters eventually flipped, going from approving to disapproving rather quickly, rather than being merely ambivalent. It'll be interesting to see if Trump's core support (blue collar whites, etc.) abandons him, or if we're facing severe and worsening societal division. I think they'd bail on Trump only if they find an attractive substitute; I'm unaware of any such candidate.

[byu71]

Interesting thoughts, SU. If Trump goes the way of Nixon, I hope the American people react as they did back in the '70s. As I recall, a great many of Nixon's supporters eventually flipped, going from approving to disapproving rather quickly, rather than being merely ambivalent. It'll be interesting to see if Trump's core support (blue collar whites, etc.) abandons him, or if we're facing severe and worsening societal division. I think they'd bail on Trump only if they find an attractive substitute; I'm unaware of any such candidate.

I would hope they would have the common sense to see that Pence will be far better in the position of POS. I fear though you could get a real clash in the streets. Those who would protest against Pence and those who are ticked Trump got impeached. Hopefully all the cooler heads would prevail.

With all the crap hitting the fan, I don't understand why Trumps approval numbers while under 50%, have been trending up.

[Northwestcoug]

Interesting thoughts, SU. If Trump goes the way of Nixon, I hope the American people react as they did back in the '70s. As I recall, a great many of Nixon's supporters eventually flipped, going from approving to disapproving rather quickly, rather than being merely ambivalent. It'll be interesting to see if Trump's core support (blue collar whites, etc.) abandons him, or if we're facing severe and worsening societal division. I think they'd bail on Trump only if they find an attractive substitute; I'm unaware of any such candidate.

There is one who can unite the right:

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[Moliere]

I meant to ask you about this... You may be right, of course, but if you're using the term "red herring" as I understand it, I'm curious who is promoting it (creating a diversion) and why? What is the greater issue the promoter is trying to conceal?

I may be stretching its definition, but I think people are interested in seeing his tax returns to see if his income matches up to where he says it is. Using the Russia angle to get to the tax returns is ancillary to the real end goal, to see his repeated income and presumed lack of taxable income.


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[imanihonjin]

Democrats are doing fine demographically. Without extreme Gerrymandering the GOP would be a shell of itself. Clinton got over 3 million more votes than Trump. Trump snuck into power he didn't ride in with any sort of mandate.

The electoral college is now considered "extreme gerrymandering"?

Bad news, frank....it doesn't really matter if democrats continue to win the popular election because they win NY and CA by such large margins. Those are two large electoral college hauls to get, but you don't get extra points for winning them big.