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  • VP Pence points out the obvious similarities between Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and President Donald Trump and NOBODY is talking about it!

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    • This Trump apologist needs to try a little harder. I get that this is a partisan/opinion column, but it's also one of the more removed from reality pieces I've read. Granted, it was clearly written to an audience that reads only hyper-partisan stuff and nothing else.

      https://townhall.com/columnists/sidn...state-n2539344

      Some examples:
      "Let’s begin with the obvious — if President Trump’s foreign policy views warranted an FBI investigation, then why didn’t the bureau probe the pro-Russia stances of former American leaders such as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton?
      Many forget that President Obama once told his Russian counterpart at the time, Vladimir Putin lackey Dmitry Medvedev, that he would have “more flexibility” after his re-election in 2012 — an ominous indication that Obama was cutting secret deals with the Russian government behind the scenes. Remarkably, he then stood by and did nothing as Putin invaded Ukraine."

      --Seriously? Obama I will grant you could be called weak in the foreign policy department. But to say he did "nothing" to respond to the Ukraine invasion is absurd considering how hard Putin has been trying to get Trump to reverse what he did do, which is the sanctions. Everything Putin does in regard to the US seems to have some connection to removing sanctions. They have hurt his economy. Disagree with the policy if you want, but it's not nothing, and this statement is dishonest.

      And this paragraph is downright comical:

      "Astute historical observers may even remember that President Bill Clinton helped Russian President Boris Yeltsin win a domestic power struggle and break a military coup. Just imagine how the Democrats and the media would react if President Trump authorized a similar operation to keep Putin in power." Astute????

      What moron would not see a difference between Yeltsin and Putin or between the early 90s and today? Yeltsin was trying to take out Communism and bring free markets and democracy to Russia and make them attractive to the west. Too bad he had too many personal failings like alcoholism to get very far. As soon as Putin came in and Yeltsin died soon after, Putin began the process of killing democracy in Russia as quickly as possible, convert from a real free market to an oligarchy economy he would personally benefit from, and an aggressive foreign policy to take back or control all other former Soviet republics as much as possible.
      Last edited by BlueK; 01-21-2019, 01:21 PM.

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      • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
        VP Pence points out the obvious similarities between Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and President Donald Trump and NOBODY is talking about it!

        Dana Milbank is!

        The uncanny similarities between President Trump and Martin Luther King Jr.

        J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI investigated King. James B. Comey’s FBI investigated Trump.

        The National Security Agency eavesdropped on King. Trump said he had his phones tapped by President Barack Obama.

        King wrote the famous “Letter From Birmingham Jail.” Many of Trump’s former advisers are facing jail time.

        King spoke at the Lincoln Memorial. Trump boasts that he is more popular among Republicans than Lincoln (“I beat our Honest Abe”).

        King was stabbed, stoned, firebombed and shot. Trump believes “no politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly” than he.

        King fought against the Vietnam War. Trump avoided the Vietnam War with bone spurs, then said avoiding venereal disease was his “personal Vietnam.”

        King dreamed that “the crooked places shall be made straight.” Trump warned about Crooked Hillary.

        King wanted his kids not to “be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” Trump, in a similar vein, proclaimed that his daughter has “got the best body ” and is “very voluptuous.”

        King was the greatest orator of his era. Trump says: “I have the best words.”

        King was the foremost civil rights figure of his age. Trump has learned that “Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice.”

        King was president of his class in divinity school. Trump says that “nobody reads the Bible more than me.”

        King was Time’s Man of the Year. Trump’s golf resorts displayed fake Time covers with Trump’s face on them until he won the distinction legitimately.

        King imagined “little black boys and girls will be holding hands with little white boys and girls.” Trump declared: “Look at my African American over here.”

        Norway granted King the Nobel Peace Prize. Trump wants “more people from places like Norway” rather than “shithole” African countries.

        King observed that “nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” Trump, of similar belief, declared that he is “like, really smart” and “a very stable genius.”

        Admittedly, Trump differs with King on some minor, technical points. King was defined by civil disobedience. Trump thinks “it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters.” King believed passionately in nonviolence. Trump promised to pay the legal fees of people who “knock the crap out of” protesters at his events.

        But the Pencean Dialectic shows us far more that unites them.

        King worried about the lack of opportunity for African Americans. So does Trump! He said: “You’re living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed — what the hell do you have to lose?”

        And nothing fulfills King’s dream like miles and miles of concrete (or steel!) barrier keeping out poor, dark-skinned people.

        King said: “We must build dikes of courage to hold back the flood of fear.” Trump says: “We must build the wall!”

        King said “hate is too great a burden to bear.” Trump feels the same — which is why he says he is building the wall out of “love.”
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • "Mike, just go out there and tell them I'm the same as Martin Luther King."

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          • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
            VP Pence points out the obvious similarities between Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and President Donald Trump and NOBODY is talking about it!


            I thought Drumpf was the master troll... constantly making liberals heads explode. He has nothing on Mike Pence. Damnit... why haven't they impeached Drumpf and made this man president yet?!?

            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • "How can you tell Trump isn't serious about making a deal? Last year, panicked that the Trump administration was going to start deporting DREAMers — undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children — en masse, Democrats offered terms that lopsidedly favored Trump's position. They offered $25 billion in wall funding in exchange for a long path to citizenship for the DREAMers and new restrictions on family reunification.

              Egged on by immigration hardliners, Trump scoffed at the offer, then proceeded to decisively lose a branch of government to his critics. After a destructive, economically ruinous month-long standoff, he consulted exclusively with allies, and on Saturday offered a crummier deal (basically the BRIDGE Act, which contains no path to citizenship at all, as well as massive new restrictions on asylum) to a much-empowered adversary.

              Imagine trying to sell your house and someone offers you $250,000 for it. Thinking you could do better, you say no. Then the market crashes, your crib bleeds out half its value, and now you decide to call up the prospective buyers and tell them you'll accept no less than $300,000. That's the Trump shutdown strategy in a nutshell.

              If Trump really wanted the wall, if he truly believed that this dumb stunt — which lacks even bare majority support from the general public — would fix a serious national problem, he would offer a clean DREAM Act in exchange for the wall funding. Doing so would force Democrats to choose between achieving a long-sought policy goal and the principle of not negotiating with terrorists. But Trump, accustomed to ripping people off and getting away with it, only offers and believes in one-sided agreements.

              https://theweek.com/articles/818968/...jor-damage-gop

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              • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                "How can you tell Trump isn't serious about making a deal? Last year, panicked that the Trump administration was going to start deporting DREAMers — undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children — en masse, Democrats offered terms that lopsidedly favored Trump's position. They offered $25 billion in wall funding in exchange for a long path to citizenship for the DREAMers and new restrictions on family reunification.

                Egged on by immigration hardliners, Trump scoffed at the offer, then proceeded to decisively lose a branch of government to his critics. After a destructive, economically ruinous month-long standoff, he consulted exclusively with allies, and on Saturday offered a crummier deal (basically the BRIDGE Act, which contains no path to citizenship at all, as well as massive new restrictions on asylum) to a much-empowered adversary.

                Imagine trying to sell your house and someone offers you $250,000 for it. Thinking you could do better, you say no. Then the market crashes, your crib bleeds out half its value, and now you decide to call up the prospective buyers and tell them you'll accept no less than $300,000. That's the Trump shutdown strategy in a nutshell.

                If Trump really wanted the wall, if he truly believed that this dumb stunt — which lacks even bare majority support from the general public — would fix a serious national problem, he would offer a clean DREAM Act in exchange for the wall funding. Doing so would force Democrats to choose between achieving a long-sought policy goal and the principle of not negotiating with terrorists. But Trump, accustomed to ripping people off and getting away with it, only offers and believes in one-sided agreements.

                https://theweek.com/articles/818968/...jor-damage-gop
                I travelled last week and couldn't really tell that government was shutdown. Of course, I flew out of SFO and didn't even see any TSA agents there. I guess SFO contracts some private security company. Maybe all the other airports should just do the same... We would all most likely save some money. Or we could just get rid of the security theater called airport security. Then we could just throw away all our stuff that is in a container that holds more than 3.4 ounces of liquid even though there is maybe an once of actual liquid actually inside. And also then we can touch our own balls.
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  And also then we can touch our own balls.
                  TSA doesn't let us do this and NOBODY is talking about it!

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                  • Another book coming out. I'm sure it's all lies.

                    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/polit...yan/index.html

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                    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                      Another book coming out. I'm sure it's all lies.

                      https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/polit...yan/index.html
                      I wonder why no former staffer hasn't come out with a book talking about how great Trump is and how the administration is all peaches and cream? Because you know Hannity would have him on and it would be a MAGA best seller.
                      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                      • let's just say hypothetically that Trump gets his way on the shutdown and border wall funding.

                        Is there anyone who doesn't think he'd shutdown the government every 2-3 months to get other things he wants or to distract from whatever is going on that he doesn't like?

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                        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                          let's just say hypothetically that Trump gets his way on the shutdown and border wall funding.

                          Is there anyone who doesn't think he'd shutdown the government every 2-3 months to get other things he wants or to distract from whatever is going on that he doesn't like?
                          I mean... that's assuming that every funding bill is only good for 2-3 months at a time, but yes-- this guy doesn't care. He'll say anything it takes to get something to run on in 2020.
                          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                          • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                            I mean... that's assuming that every funding bill is only good for 2-3 months at a time, but yes-- this guy doesn't care. He'll say anything it takes to get something to run on in 2020.
                            The CR that would have passed at the end of December which he originally said he would sign, only would have been good until sometime in February.
                            Last edited by BlueK; 01-22-2019, 12:36 PM.

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                            • Now that the Supreme Court has declined to hear Trump's DACA challenge (I think citing that it's not ripe for the Court to hear- I haven't really read the whole thing), his 'offer' to extend it has zero appeal. It's going to be in place for the foreseeable future. Again- if he can sweeten the pot with a path to citizenship and restore initial applications, 5b for border security would be no problem.
                              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                              • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                                The CR that would have passed at the end of December which he originally said he would sign, only would have been good until sometime in February.
                                That was a compromise to keep the government open while they negotiated wall funding.

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