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  • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    This is great news. Trump making every effort to convince us there was not collusion.
    They was collusion... just ask Frank. I think this goes to show what kind of jerk Drumpf can be. The Russians get him elected and now he stabs them in the back. I bet Drumpf didn't even offer to have the CIA to help Putin in his election. The CIA is pretty good at that, you know.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
      They was collusion... just ask Frank. I think this goes to show what kind of jerk Drumpf can be. The Russians get him elected and now he stabs them in the back. I bet Drumpf didn't even offer to have the CIA to help Putin in his election. The CIA is pretty good at that, you know.
      It's not really Trump's fault. He doesn't have absolute power yet to be completely friendly to the Russians as much as he'd like. He has people like Haley at the UN and used to have Tillerson as Sec of State who were not always Russia friendly. And then what are you going to do when the House and Senate vote for more sanctions with only 4 members voting no. Of course, he did hire Tillerson with Putin's blessing over Mitt. I think Putin is frustrated about that, but he understands the US system is still different.
      Last edited by BlueK; 03-26-2018, 10:02 AM.

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      • Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
        Shoot, I couldn’t remember. Love didn’t sound right but I couldn’t remember.
        lol. Not to change the subject, but I've been hearing Office Space references increasingly these days, much to my approval. Coincidentally, I was at the Cubs vs. Mariners spring game the other day and our own Jacob Hannemann came up to bat for the Cubs. Somebody behind me quipped, "what number is he? Ninety nu... Ninety sev... Ninety Nu Nu No'gonnabe playing here for long anyway.."
        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
          It's not really Trump's fault. He doesn't have absolute power yet to be completely friendly to the Russians as much as he'd like. He has people like Haley at the UN and used to have Tillerson as Sec of State who were not always Russia friendly. And then what are you going to do when the House and Senate vote for more sanctions with only 4 members voting no. Of course, he did hire Tillerson with Putin's blessing over Mitt. I think Putin is frustrated about that, but he understands the US system is still different.
          Ha. Just like with Obama, there’s a conspiracy theory under every rock.


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          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            Ha. Just like with Obama, there’s a conspiracy theory under every rock.


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            I don't think you can argue with a straight face that Trump's words and actions related to Russia aren't a little odd most of the time.

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            • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
              I don't think you can argue with a straight face that Trump's words and actions related to Russia aren't a little odd most of the time.
              It may turn out that Trump's biggest Russia-related problem is that from the outset he has acted like a guilty person with something to hide.

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              • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                I don't think you can argue with a straight face that Trump's words and actions related to Russia aren't a little odd most of the time.
                Agree

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                • My favorite argument about Trump is that during the election he didn’t even collude (cooperate) with his own staff and advisors — why the hell does anybody think he would collude with the Russians?

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                  • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                    My favorite argument about Trump is that during the election he didn’t even collude (cooperate) with his own staff and advisors — why the hell does anybody think he would collude with the Russians?
                    the only way trump colluded is if one of his dumb dumb agents (donny jr, cohen, roger stone, etc) did it on his behalf and trump signed off because he is unable to pay attention to detail. i didn’t think this was likely until it came out that guccifer is a single person and is gru. it’s at least plausible now.
                    Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                    • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                      the only way trump colluded is if one of his dumb dumb agents (donny jr, cohen, roger stone, etc) did it on his behalf and trump signed off because he is unable to pay attention to detail. i didn’t think this was likely until it came out that guccifer is a single person and is gru. it’s at least plausible now.
                      I think there’s a good chance collision happened (consider that it is a broad term). If it did, I also think it is likely Russia initiated this. Trump has established ties to criminal Russian oligarchs. Morally, neither Russia nor Trump are above this.

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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        I think there’s a good chance collision happened (consider that it is a broad term). If it did, I also think it is likely Russia initiated this. Trump has established ties to criminal Russian oligarchs. Morally, neither Russia nor Trump are above this.
                        One of the many problems with Trump is that he, as always, tries to deflect on the subject of Mueller's investigation, as if the absence of any direct collusion between him and Putin makes the entire investigation a specious witch hunt. But Mueller's specific instructions are to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and any individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump," and "any matters" that arise from that investigation. The instructions aren't limited to a specific time period.

                        Mueller is doing exactly what he was instructed to do. And there unquestionably are many "links," even if there was no collusion.

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                        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                          Ha. Just like with Obama, there’s a conspiracy theory under every rock.


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                          lol you dont need to look far. trump refused to enforce a bipartisan sanction bill on russia. hmmm

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                          • This is a CNN poll... so you have to adjust by 10%. 52% approve of Drumpf:

                            CNN Poll: 42% approve of Trump, highest in 11 months

                            President Donald Trump's approval rating has rebounded to its highest level since the 100-day mark of his presidency, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, even as his approval ratings for handling major issues remain largely negative.


                            Overall, 42% approve of the way Trump is handling the presidency, 54% disapprove. Approval is up 7 points overall since February, including 6-point increases among Republicans (from 80% to 86% now) and independents (from 35% to 41% now). Trump's approval rating remains below that of all of his modern-era predecessors at this stage in their first term after being elected, though Trump only trails Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama by a narrow 4 points at this point in their first terms.
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                            https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/p...ses/index.html
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              This is a CNN poll... so you have to adjust by 10%. 52% approve of Drumpf:


                              https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/p...ses/index.html
                              42%!

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                              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                This is a CNN poll... so you have to adjust by 10%. 52% approve of Drumpf:


                                https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/p...ses/index.html
                                All those alt right tweets you read are getting to you. The majority of Americans do not approve of him, even though you do.

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