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  • frank ryan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 12257

    #4771
    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    Not the "same deal." Might be. But that's not what the article says.
    You can parse words and be overly legalistic, but you're wrong on Trump and Russia simply being hysteria, in the same way you were wrong about Trump being inappropriately tagged as a racist. Trump does not deserve being given the benefit of the doubt.

    Here is a retort of The Nation article you posted. http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecur...ic-dnc-article

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    • PaloAltoCougar
      Semper infra dignitatem
      • Nov 2008
      • 16908

      #4772
      This, from Facebook (as always, I lack the skill to embed): Dear God, If you want us to impeach Trump, give us a sign, like blot out the sun... Anytime in the next week. Thanks, Americans

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      • Walter Sobchak
        Adventurer
        • Oct 2009
        • 3815

        #4773
        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
        This, from Facebook (as always, I lack the skill to embed)
        lol. facebook is hard.
        You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
        Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

        Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
        You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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        • PaloAltoCougar
          Semper infra dignitatem
          • Nov 2008
          • 16908

          #4774
          Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
          lol. facebook is hard.
          I know, right?

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          • Shaka
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 10432

            #4775
            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
            This, from Facebook (as always, I lack the skill to embed): Dear God, If you want us to impeach Trump, give us a sign, like blot out the sun... Anytime in the next week. Thanks, Americans

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            • creekster
              It is NOT a monkey!
              • Nov 2008
              • 22661

              #4776
              I thought this was pretty good.

              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • frank ryan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 12257

                #4777
                Trump wants Flake out of the Senate:



                Trump is trying to oust Jeff Flake from the Senate - Vox
                Flake is publicly critical of Trump — but he largely votes in line with Trump’s agenda.

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                • Jeff Lebowski
                  Corporate lackey for Jesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 69409

                  #4778
                  Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                  This, from Facebook (as always, I lack the skill to embed): Dear God, If you want us to impeach Trump, give us a sign, like blot out the sun... Anytime in the next week. Thanks, Americans
                  That's hilarious.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • Shaka
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 10432

                    #4779
                    Originally posted by creekster View Post
                    Yup

                    Charlottesville was like trying to cure one type of cancer with another form of cancer. In the end they are both cancers.

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                    • swampfrog
                      Social Distance Warrior
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2267

                      #4780
                      Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                      Yup

                      Charlottesville was like trying to cure one type of cancer with another form of cancer. In the end they are both cancers.

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                      • PaloAltoCougar
                        Semper infra dignitatem
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 16908

                        #4781
                        During my run this morning I was listening to local (KQED) newscast that included a discussion of the so-called slippery slope argument Trump has been making (i.e., if we tear down statues of Lee and Jackson today, won't Washington and Jefferson be next--where will it stop?). A professor from back east (and I regret I can't recall his name) said there isn't a slippery slope at all. Rather, one should consider two things when considering the propriety of a monument's existence: (1) What deeds/facts/history is the monument honoring?, and (2) If the honoree is flawed (and who isn't?), do his/her accomplishments materially outweigh those flaws?

                        In the case of Lee and Jackson, their statues (which typically show them in full uniform heading into battle) honor their service in seeking to break up the United States and preserve slavery. Their claims to fame consist of little more than that.

                        There really isn't a slippery slope here at all.

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                        • BigPiney
                          Huge Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12308

                          #4782
                          Originally posted by creekster View Post
                          that is good.

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                          • Shaka
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 10432

                            #4783
                            Great article. I watched similar approaches play out over and over while on my mission in South Africa. I also saw approaches similar to what happened in Charlottesville which never turned out well.

                            I guess it's good that this guy didn't show up to the gig wearing a helmet and mask and wielding a baseball bat.

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                            • Eddie
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 8098

                              #4784
                              Originally posted by creekster View Post
                              I agree. Good article.

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69409

                                #4785
                                Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                                During my run this morning I was listening to local (KQED) newscast that included a discussion of the so-called slippery slope argument Trump has been making (i.e., if we tear down statues of Lee and Jackson today, won't Washington and Jefferson be next--where will it stop?). A professor from back east (and I regret I can't recall his name) said there isn't a slippery slope at all. Rather, one should consider two things when considering the propriety of a monument's existence: (1) What deeds/facts/history is the monument honoring?, and (2) If the honoree is flawed (and who isn't?), do his/her accomplishments materially outweigh those flaws?

                                In the case of Lee and Jackson, their statues (which typically show them in full uniform heading into battle) honor their service in seeking to break up the United States and preserve slavery. Their claims to fame consist of little more than that.

                                There really isn't a slippery slope here at all.
                                The honoring history argument is bogus. These monuments were mostly built during the Jim Crow era by white supremacists. And the confederate flag came back into popularity during the civil rights movement in the 60's. Again by white supremacists.

                                Taking down monuments to people who dedicated their lives to preserving slavery is not erasing history.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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