President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[frank ryan]

Harris would be such a terrible candidate.

I don't know who would be excited about her. She has Hillary vibes now.

[frank ryan]

I agree. Both are skilled politicians who have moved toward the center on some issues. But I don’t think MAGA supporters will give them credit for those shifts. They’ll keep running against the earlier positions. I also think they each carry political liabilities beyond where they stand on issues.

There is nothing a Democrat could do to soothe fears of liberalism when it comes to MAGA. It's akin to a religion and this point. But one that depends on adversaries.

Hell, Biden was moderate, but MAGA would call him a communist.

[The_Tick]

There is nothing a Democrat could do to soothe fears of liberalism when it comes to MAGA. It's akin to a religion and this point. But one that depends on adversaries.

Hell, Biden was moderate, but MAGA would call him a communist.

I'd vote for a Democrat. I wont vote for a Democrat that is attached to California.

And I wont vote for a Democrat that is for open borders. Find me a Democrat that is willing to look at U.S. self-interest first, and I will sign right up.

[BlueK]

I'd vote for a Democrat. I wont vote for a Democrat that is attached to California.

And I wont vote for a Democrat that is for open borders. Find me a Democrat that is willing to look at U.S. self-interest first, and I will sign right up.

Define "open borders." Ideally, what kind of immigration policy would you agree with?

[Moliere]

There is nothing a Democrat could do to soothe fears of liberalism when it comes to MAGA. It's akin to a religion and this point. But one that depends on adversaries.

Hell, Biden was moderate, but MAGA would call him a communist.

Biden was a moderate but he let some very progressive people run certain things in his presidency. I mean, the guy wasn’t exactly handling the day to day of anything for the last two years of his presidency.

[frank ryan]

I'd vote for a Democrat. I wont vote for a Democrat that is attached to California.

And I wont vote for a Democrat that is for open borders. Find me a Democrat that is willing to look at U.S. self-interest first, and I will sign right up.

No one is "open borders," that I'm aware of. Maybe some DSA peeps

[BlueK]

Trump trying to ban certain news outlets from the White House based only on disagreeing with their coverage is as unconstitutional, un-American, and disgusting as it gets. There are no words strong enough to condemn this nakedly blatant attack on our freedoms.

This is fascist behavior. No apologies.

We already know the script...Trump will lose in the lower courts only to appeal and waste the Supreme Court's time again to rule on a no-brainer First Amendment issue and give Thomas and Alito another chance to put on their clown suit.

[Moliere]

No one is "open borders," that I'm aware of. Maybe some DSA peeps

A lot of progressive democrats are open borders supporters. Keep in mind that I classify open border people as ones that want to decriminalize unauthorized border crossings or that want to fully abolish ICE without replacing it with a department that can deport people.

[frank ryan]

A lot of progressive democrats are open borders supporters. Keep in mind that I classify open border people as ones that want to decriminalize unauthorized border crossings or that want to fully abolish ICE without replacing it with a department that can deport people.

That makes more sense. I still don't think you'd find a ton of people. As far I know unlawful border crossings aren't crimes.

ICE needs to be changed or have a rebirth. As it stands now it's a police brutality factory.

[falafel]

I wont vote for either of those two. I also wont vote for Vance.

I'd vote for Rubio. I'd vote for Shapiro.

But if it is Vance, Harris, or Newsom...I'll end up voting 3rd party.

I would never vote for Vance or Rubio. Vance is a liar and shape-shifter. Rubio is just white-washing Trump's bullshit until he can run again. Not a fan of that.

I wouldn't vote for Harris, but I would vote for Newsom over any of the current Rs that are jostling for position. Rs (Trump and all the Rs who did SHIT to stop or control him) can fuck right off.

Having said all that, I would prefer Shapiro or someone like him. Newsom is going to get 100 tons of shit dumped on him because he's a California D and the focus of Rs' hate and boogeymandary.

[LVAllen]

That makes more sense. I still don't think you'd find a ton of people. As far I know unlawful border crossings aren't crimes.

ICE needs to be changed or have a rebirth. As it stands now it's a police brutality factory.

Improper entry between border crossings is a misdemeanor. Re-entering after being deported is a felony. Being physically present in the US without immigration documents is not a crime.

The main issue is that asylum is a lawful means of immigration, regardless of how the person enters the country. In fact, you must be physically present in the US in order to request it. The Millerites don't see it as legal immigration at all because it helps brown people. They assume anyone who applies for asylum is automatically fraudulent. They encourage Mexican and US border enforcement to physically block asylum seekers from reaching the US border crossing where they could request asylum. Once in the US, they can affirmatively request it or raise it as a defense to civil removal proceedings.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Trump trying to ban certain news outlets from the White House based only on disagreeing with their coverage is as unconstitutional, un-American, and disgusting as it gets. There are no words strong enough to condemn this nakedly blatant attack on our freedoms.

This is fascist behavior. No apologies.

We already know the script...Trump will lose in the lower courts only to appeal and waste the Supreme Court's time again to rule on a no-brainer First Amendment issue and give Thomas and Alito another chance to put on their clown suit.

Part 1 of script is complete. A judge reversed the ban (stayed it for a couple of weeks?) in an overnight ruling.

[BlueK]

Part 1 of script is complete. A judge reversed the ban (stayed it for a couple of weeks?) in an overnight ruling.

And Trump is so far ignoring the court order to restore their credentials.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/judge-ruling-white-house-restore-access-media-ban-cnn-politico-ms-now-rcna599391

[The_Tick]

Define "open borders." Ideally, what kind of immigration policy would you agree with?

Well I am probably going to get flame/roasted for this...but this is my own personal belief.

1. I am not for asylum seeking that is more than one border over. We should provide asylum for people from Canada and Mexico. If you cross a border to get into Canada or Mexico, then no Asylum. At that point you are cherry picking.

2. I am all for immigration. And I am okay for folks coming here. But no social support. No housing help, food help, medical help. Now...I am not a heartless person. I think of it logically. I would be all for providing minimal support for folks to get on their feet. But the problem is, as a society, once we provide help we never stop providing help. Because that is mean and wrong. If we turned off social service support, people would stop immigrating here.

[Donuthole]

Well I am probably going to get flame/roasted for this...but this is my own personal belief.

1. I am not for asylum seeking that is more than one border over. We should provide asylum for people from Canada and Mexico. If you cross a border to get into Canada or Mexico, then no Asylum. At that point you are cherry picking.

2. I am all for immigration. And I am okay for folks coming here. But no social support. No housing help, food help, medical help. Now...I am not a heartless person. I think of it logically. I would be all for providing minimal support for folks to get on their feet. But the problem is, as a society, once we provide help we never stop providing help. Because that is mean and wrong. If we turned off social service support, people would stop immigrating here.

Yeah, the root question is, why do you want people to stop immigrating here? I know the surface answer is taxes, but anyone who is middle to upper middle class is not living a starkly different life paying 24% in taxes than they would be living if they were paying 22% taxes or even 14%. So this answer generally falls flat, and is not really the answer.