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But still not that hard to catch. If I were Governor of Judea?? No way Trump knows that word.Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
This is fake/satire. It it is getting harder to differentiate.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
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GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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A waste of time, I acknowledge, but I keep thinking how different things would be if Mitch McConnell and eight other invertebrate senators had voted to convict Trump in February 2021. They strongly condemned Trump's actions and statements on January 6 and the days leading up to that, but then reverted to form and enabled Orange Julius. if they'd had any integrity, we'd likely have a Rubio, Vance, DeSantis, or other Republican president, none of whom I might have voted for, but all within the Overton window of rational political discourse.
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Yep McConnell deserves to be remembered as a failure.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostA waste of time, I acknowledge, but I keep thinking how different things would be if Mitch McConnell and eight other invertebrate senators had voted to convict Trump in February 2021. They strongly condemned Trump's actions and statements on January 6 and the days leading up to that, but then reverted to form and enabled Orange Julius. if they'd had any integrity, we'd likely have a Rubio, Vance, DeSantis, or other Republican president, none of whom I might have voted for, but all within the Overton window of rational political discourse.
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So the Pentagon threatens the Pope. That's vile. If people care about religious freedom, they should find this repellent.
Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.
Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.
“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”
One U.S. official present at the meeting brought up the Avignon papacy, a period in the 14th century in which the French monarchy bent the Catholic Church into submission, ordering an attack on Pope Boniface VIII that led to his downfall and subsequent death and forcing the papacy to relocate from Rome to Avignon, a region inside France.
The Trump administration had taken issue with the pope’s critique of its militaristic proclivities. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other top Pentagon officials were particularly aggrieved by portions of Leo’s January 9 speech in which the pope argued that “a diplomacy that promotes dialogue and seeks consensus among all parties is being replaced by a diplomacy based on force,” and that “war is back in vogue, and a zeal for war is spreading.”
The pope’s address was dissected line by line and interpreted as a hostile message toward the administration, reported Letters from Leo Substack writer Christopher Hale.
It was difficult not to interpret Leo’s comments as an immediate commentary on Donald Trump’s second administration, which had at that point bombed Iran’s nuclear facilities, kidnapped Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro, fiercely advocated for the dissolution of NATO, and threatened America’s allies, including claiming that the U.S. would seize control of Canada and Greenland.
But the blatant intimidation tactic is the first of its kind ever made by American officials to the Catholic Church. There are no public records of any previous meetings between Vatican and U.S. officials at the Pentagon, let alone an instance in which the world power suggested that it could force the Bishop of Rome into captivity.
The Vatican was so alarmed by the Pentagon’s warning that Pope Leo cancelled his plans to visit the U.S. later in the year, reported Hale, who noted that “many in the Vatican saw the Pentagon’s reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.”
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I have gained a ton of respect for the Pope since this war started. As far as I can tell he has pretty much stood alone on this in the US Christian sphere.Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSo the Pentagon threatens the Pope. That's vile. If people care about religious freedom, they should find this repellent.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...212552754.html
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That is wild. Reminding the Pope's emissary about the Avignon period?? The United States of America didn't even exist, yet we lecture the Pontiff on Catholic history.Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSo the Pentagon threatens the Pope. That's vile. If people care about religious freedom, they should find this repellent.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...212552754.htmlAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
"I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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It would nice to see other faith speak out in solidarity with Catholic leaders.Originally posted by falafel View Post
That is wild. Reminding the Pope's emissary about the Avignon period?? The United States of America didn't even exist, yet we lecture the Pontiff on Catholic history.
Also, I feel like pointing that a lot these Christian extremists like Jack Posebiac, Nicke Fuentes, Michael Knowles, and the late Charlie Kirk are Catholic, sometimes converting to Catholicism.
They lionize fascist Francisco France and Chilean dictator Pinochet.
There has been some internal division in Catholicism about excommunicating some of these groups.
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That's not credible. Trump is not contemplating leaving office.Originally posted by Maximus View Post"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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