The 2020 Presidential Election Primary Thread

[wapiti]

The mainstream media is finally(!) figuring out that Bernie Sanders is evil and could destroy the country. This is from the Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...470_story.html

Saying you won't for Sanders or Trump cuts no ice. Everyone (like Brooks and many here) who says they're voting for neither will in their hearts want Trump but are too pressured by peers to say so. Especially if you're a New York Times columnist. Some things are more important than boorishness and vulgarity. Some of us have been saying these things for five years and that the hideously biased mainstream media is failing their country. Now the mainstream media is freaking out. But it sowed there seeds of this catastrophe.

I'll vote for neither. But I'm in a state Trump will win so it doesn't matter. If I were in a swing state I would vote for Trump. Still hoping the dems get their act together and present a decent Trump alternative.

[SeattleUte]

The mainstream media is finally(!) figuring out that Bernie Sanders is evil and could destroy the country. This is from the Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...470_story.html

Saying you won't for Sanders or Trump cuts no ice. Everyone (like Brooks and many here) who says they're voting for neither will in their hearts want Trump but are too pressured by peers to say so. Especially if you're a New York Times columnist. Some things are more important than boorishness and vulgarity. Some of us have been saying these things for five years and that the hideously biased mainstream media is failing their country. Now the mainstream media is freaking out. But it sowed there seeds of this catastrophe.

[wuapinmon]

David Brooks freaking out about Bernie. He’s absolutely right, but a real Johnny come lately. Many have been saying this for a long time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/o...e=articleShare

This is the heart of what's wrong with us as a nation these days:

A liberal leader confronts new facts and changes his or her mind. A populist leader cannot because the omniscience of the charismatic headman can never be doubted. A liberal sees shades of gray. For a populist reality is white or black, friend or enemy. Facts that don’t fit the dogma are ignored.

[SeattleUte]

David Brooks freaking out about Bernie. He’s absolutely right, but a real Johnny come lately. Many have been saying this for a long time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/o...e=articleShare

[old_gregg]

trevor noah can’t recognize a joke what an insufferable bonehead

[falafel]

Did anyone see this? I'm not sure it was posted. Some funny video from a public access tv show Bernie did when he was mayor of Burlington 30 years ago. Talking to 5 year-old kids about cocaine, etc.

[creekster]

Ok. When President Bernie guts the US economy we will all take satisfaction from the knowledge that he was sincere and authentic while doing so.

ANd that's exactly what makes it so bad, in my mind. He is sincere and authentic. He actually believes, with a lifetime of experience (although most of that experience is living on the public dole and fantasizing about leninist utopias that never were), that his crappy ideas will work. But sincere authenticity, as you point out, will not help the GDP. UNlike Warren, who DOES know better, I think Bernie is just not that smart, or is at best wilfully ignorant.

[frank ryan]

Ok. When President Bernie guts the US economy we will all take satisfaction from the knowledge that he was sincere and authentic while doing so.

Dude, I’m not trying to convince to approve of Bernie. I mentioned that in comparison to Warren who I find less likeable. Sheesh

[Jeff Lebowski]

I think you can fear a Bernie presidency and his policies but find him infinitely more sincere and authentic than Warren, and most other contenders. I still have sent in my ballot. I want my vote go to whom has the best chance of winning.

I ended up some list and I’m getting constant text from campaign volunteers to vote or volunteer for their people. I’m hearing far more from Bloomberg and Sanders than anyone else. I get text multiple times a day, but I haven’t gotten one from Biden’s campaign.

Ok. When President Bernie guts the US economy we will all take satisfaction from the knowledge that he was sincere and authentic while doing so.

[frank ryan]

Exactly

I think you can fear a Bernie presidency and his policies but find him infinitely more sincere and authentic than Warren, and most other contenders. I still haven’t sent in my ballot. I want my vote go to whom has the best chance of winning.

I ended up some list and I’m getting constant text from campaign volunteers to vote or volunteer for their people. I’m hearing far more from Bloomberg and Sanders than anyone else. I get text multiple times a day, but I haven’t gotten one from Biden’s campaign.

[Jeff Lebowski]

The worst part of it, for me, is that she is NOT that stupid. She's smart and she knows she is being misleading and disingenuous and she doesn't care.

Exactly

[creekster]

I feel almost as passionate about stopping Warren. I just watched a video of her defending her student loan forgiveness plan. Some navy vet was asking why he would have to pay off other people's loans when he did military service to pay for his schooling. Her response? All that money in the hands of people would stimulate the economy. I can't believe there are so many people dumb enough to fall for this.

The worst part of it, for me, is that she is NOT that stupid. She's smart and she knows she is being misleading and disingenuous and she doesn't care.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I agree. I never thought the prospect of a Biden win would excite me as it does now.

I feel almost as passionate about stopping Warren. I just watched a video of her defending her student loan forgiveness plan. Some navy vet was asking why he would have to pay off other people's loans when he did military service to pay for his schooling. Her response? All that money in the hands of people would stimulate the economy. I can't believe there are so many people dumb enough to fall for this.

[imanihonjin]

Hooray! Please, please, please stop Sanders.

I agree. I never thought the prospect of a Biden win would excite me as it does now.

[Jeff Lebowski]

According to the latest polls in S. Carolina Biden is again pushing ahead of Sanders. If Biden wins comfortably enough it will be interesting to see what effect that may have on Super Tuesday. Sanders can survive by not winning in SC, but I think most believe he'd be in an almost insurmountable position next Tuesday if he comfortably won in SC. That's no longer appearing to be what will happen there, but who knows.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...mary-6824.html

Hooray! Please, please, please stop Sanders.