The 2020 Presidential Election Primary Thread

[frank ryan]

One wonders if the Biden camp can find any demented, stupid or contradictory statements by Trump. Seriously, you could string together just a small portion of such statements and the ad's length would make The Irishman seem like a short subject. I had hoped the 2016 campaign would be the nadir of political campaigns. 2020 will make that one seem lofty and high-minded.

Some people have a hard-on over the idea that liberals get hysterical in criticisms of Trump and he really isn't that bad. It's the edgy, faux superior take, but it's not backed up by reality.

[PaloAltoCougar]

He may. A short ad taking short sound bites out of context isn't exactly convincing though.

One wonders if the Biden camp can find any demented, stupid or contradictory statements by Trump. Seriously, you could string together just a small portion of such statements and the ad's length would make The Irishman seem like a short subject. I had hoped the 2016 campaign would be the nadir of political campaigns. 2020 will make that one seem lofty and high-minded.

[beefytee]

Biden is going to get crushed.

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He may. A short ad taking short sound bites out of context isn't exactly convincing though.

[UVACoug]

That ad misfires and it kind of pisses me off. It was made for the ‘doing my part to flatten the curve’ virtue signalers whose quarantine burden is fairly minor. Meanwhile there’s a significant portion of the population whose entire livelihoods vanished within a couple weeks. They’re justifiably pissed and won’t be in the mood to be called monstrous when they can’t put food on the table or a roof over the family’s head.

The message needs to be that Trump’s negligence between Jan-March forced this situation. But going after him for wanting to restart the economy as fast as possible is tone deaf.

Such a dumb ad. The quote they go with right before the label him "Monstrous" is "We don't want the cure to be worse than the disease?" That's a completely reasonable take that most people would agree with. They couldn't find anything worse that he's said than that?

[Walter Sobchak]

Biden is going to get crushed.

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[Moliere]

Yeah, a major swing and a miss. Dems better be careful with how they politicize this COVID issue, because there is a massive lobby of formerly blue voters in my blue swing state who are going to really, really like the sound of someone promising to get the hotels and casinos back open.

Agreed, a very odd ad. I bet most of those seniors would be happy to have the economy reopened in a prudent and judicial manner and there isn't much indication from the Feds that they'd open it any other way. I mean, it was Trump that extended the shut down recommendation to at least April 30 and I actually like his optimism and desire to start to reopen things gradually so as to protect the most vulnerable but also put people back to work.

[frank ryan]

That ad misfires and it kind of pisses me off. It was made for the ‘doing my part to flatten the curve’ virtue signalers whose quarantine burden is fairly minor. Meanwhile there’s a significant portion of the population whose entire livelihoods vanished within a couple weeks. They’re justifiably pissed and won’t be in the mood to be called monstrous when they can’t put food on the table or a roof over the family’s head.

The message needs to be that Trump’s negligence between Jan-March forced this situation. But going after him for wanting to restart the economy as fast as possible is tone deaf.

He wasn't vile for blabbing about opening the economy up by Easter, just moronic. That channel has many other fun ads on it though.

[frank ryan]

Probably the same people who would have been pushed to vote for Trump if Bernie had been nominated because Bernie promised to take away their union healthcare plans.

Trump wanting to get the economy open might be his greatest strength in this crisis. There is a large group of people who are compliant with distancing recommendations now because they know the guy ultimately in charge has no interest in keeping them locked up long term. This is why a plan to communicate a timeline is crucial. The more people feel like there is not plan and we are going to be doing this indefinitely at the government's whims, the more they will rebel and lessen the effectiveness of the distancing.

Ezekiel Emmanuel said that we are going to do this until there is a vaccine. No school, no sporting events, no restaurant dining rooms open for 12-18 months. I'm all for doing my part, but f**k that.

Bernie would not have not have lost casino workers en masse. I've worked with people from those unions, members and staff, they are not like auto workers, and Trump has a horrible reputation with casino workers in general going back to forever

[Uncle Ted]

Yeah, a major swing and a miss. Dems better be careful with how they politicize this COVID issue, because there is a massive lobby of formerly blue voters in my blue swing state who are going to really, really like the sound of someone promising to get the hotels and casinos back open.

Yeah, there are Dems that think Biden can't handle anything... Joe Rogan, for example:

Joe Rogan On 2020 Election: I Would ‘Rather Vote For Trump’ Over Biden, Biden Can’t Handle Anything

Joe Rogan, host of the podcast “The Joe Rogan Experience,” said on Friday that he would vote for President Donald Trump over Joe Biden if Biden becomes the Democratic presidential nominee.

Rogan made the remarks while talking with guest Eric Weinstein, a left-wing political commentator who is also the managing director of Thiel Capital.

“This is the real issue with the Democratic Party,” Rogan said. “They’ve essentially made us all morons with this Joe Biden thing. They really have. They’ve made us all morons.”

“I can’t vote for that guy,” Rogan continued. “I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden]. I don’t think he can handle anything."
[...]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/joe-rogan-on-2020-election-i-would-rather-vote-for-trump-over-biden-biden-cant-handle-anything

Biden has been largely missing the last few months.

And when is Obama going to give his endorsement?

[Uncle Ted]

A commie-free ballot. Phew.

Maybe not... Biden might be picking Kamala ("medicare for all") Harris for his running mate:

"I’m coming for you, kid.”
— Joe Biden to Kamala Harris

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-virtual-town-hall-presumptive-nominee-coming-for-kamala-harris

I have to think that Creepy Uncle Joe likes Kamala for other reasons, however.

[Art Vandelay]

Are you writing in Faith Spotted Eagle?

Think I’ll go with Brother Romney. Just to annoy as many ward members as possible.


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[Omaha 680]

Yeah, a major swing and a miss. Dems better be careful with how they politicize this COVID issue, because there is a massive lobby of formerly blue voters in my blue swing state who are going to really, really like the sound of someone promising to get the hotels and casinos back open.

Probably the same people who would have been pushed to vote for Trump if Bernie had been nominated because Bernie promised to take away their union healthcare plans.

Trump wanting to get the economy open might be his greatest strength in this crisis. There is a large group of people who are compliant with distancing recommendations now because they know the guy ultimately in charge has no interest in keeping them locked up long term. This is why a plan to communicate a timeline is crucial. The more people feel like there is not plan and we are going to be doing this indefinitely at the government's whims, the more they will rebel and lessen the effectiveness of the distancing.

Ezekiel Emmanuel said that we are going to do this until there is a vaccine. No school, no sporting events, no restaurant dining rooms open for 12-18 months. I'm all for doing my part, but f**k that.

[Walter Sobchak]

Not to mention the anyone-but-Trump conservatives, like myself.


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Are you writing in Faith Spotted Eagle?

[Art Vandelay]

Yeah, a major swing and a miss. Dems better be careful with how they politicize this COVID issue, because there is a massive lobby of formerly blue voters in my state blue swing state who are going to really, really like the sound of someone promising to get the hotels and casinos back open.

Not to mention the anyone-but-Trump conservatives, like myself.


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[Donuthole]

That ad misfires and it kind of pisses me off. It was made for the ‘doing my part to flatten the curve’ virtue signalers whose quarantine burden is fairly minor. Meanwhile there’s a significant portion of the population whose entire livelihoods vanished within a couple weeks. They’re justifiably pissed and won’t be in the mood to be called monstrous when they can’t put food on the table or a roof over the family’s head.

The message needs to be that Trump’s negligence between Jan-March forced this situation. But going after him for wanting to restart the economy as fast as possible is tone deaf.

Yeah, a major swing and a miss. Dems better be careful with how they politicize this COVID issue, because there is a massive lobby of formerly blue voters in my blue swing state who are going to really, really like the sound of someone promising to get the hotels and casinos back open.