What's wrong with Texas?

[BlueK]

67% of the Southerners paid a pretty heavy price to fight and die for the right of 33% to own slaves. The 33% must have duped the 67% into thinking they were fighting for something else.

Or they duped them into thinking they would someday inherit their dad's slaves or plantation and therefore would need slaves. Or maybe some of that 67% were children. Were women allowed to own property? Maybe some of that 67% are female.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Or they duped them into thinking they would someday inherit their dad's slaves or plantation and therefore would need slaves. Or maybe some of that 67% were children. Were women allowed to own property? Maybe some of that 67% are female.

Or maybe they just declared war and then sent out the home guard to enforce enlistment for those who didn't want to fight.

[byu71]

Or they duped them into thinking they would someday inherit their dad's slaves or plantation and therefore would need slaves. Or maybe some of that 67% were children. Were women allowed to own property? Maybe some of that 67% are female.

The 33% is a number representing families that owned slaves. So most children and female's would be part of the figure and not just a figure for men.

Maybe the times were different and the rich and powerful could force people to sacrifice for the sake of the rich or powerful. I thought the Southern Army was volunteer though but I could be totally wrong about that.

Edit: Initially volunteer and later conscription

[Paperback Writer]

Or maybe they just declared war and then sent out the home guard to enforce enlistment for those who didn't want to fight.

That ... and they volunteered when Union armies started marching on Virginia and Tennessee. The author Shelby Foote mentioned that when Union soldiers or northern reporters asked the typical Confederate soldier why he was fighting when there was a low probability that he would ever own slaves, their reply was: "Because you are over here". The morale of the majority of Confederate soldiers was fairly high, higher than could be explained by just being conscripted. If they were not fighting on the ground of their own state, they realized they soon would be if the advance of the northern army could not be stopped.

[Jeff Lebowski]

That ... and they volunteered when Union armies started marching on Virginia and Tennessee. The author Shelby Foote mentioned that when Union soldiers or northern reporters asked the typical Confederate soldier why he was fighting when there was a low probability that he would ever own slaves, their reply was: "Because you are over here". The morale of the majority of Confederate soldiers was fairly high, higher than could be explained by just being conscripted. If they were not fighting on the ground of their own state, they realized they soon would be if the advance of the northern army could not be stopped.

Yep.

[SeattleUte]

Most people like to be told what to do and how to think -- even if they don't think so.

[YOhio]

Most people like to be told what to do and how to think -- even if they don't think so.

It's like I always say..."men rejoice at finding themselves led once more like a herd of cattle."

[byu71]

Most people like to be told what to do and how to think -- even if they don't think so.

I think choosing to join a situation with the liklihood of being injured or killed would not fit with this.

[frank ryan]

I thought Patterson Hood from the Drive by Truckers made a good point about reasons behind the civil war.

Let’s pause to think about that one for a moment: one man owning another. When our kindly Grandpa says “states’ rights,” that’s the “right” he’s talking about. Unfair tariffs? Many of the soldiers in the Civil War probably couldn’t spell “tariff.” But they certainly knew that the South’s economy and very way of life was built upon the backs of men, women and children of color.

[LA Ute]

What's wrong with Texas?

From a plaque in the Texas state capitol:

Because we desire to perpetuate, in love and honor, the heroic deeds of those who enlisted in the Confederate Army and upheld its flag through four years of war, we, the children of the South, have united together in an organization called “Children of the Confederacy,” in which our strength, enthusiasm, and love of justice can exert its influence. We therefore pledge ourselves to preserve pure ideals; to honor our veterans; to study and teach the truths of history (one of the most important of which is that the war between the states was not a rebellion nor was its underlying cause to sustain slavery), and to always act in a manner that will reflect honor upon our noble and patriotic ancestors.

They left out the part about Lincoln being a tyrant.

[ERCougar]

You saw this same thing recently when questions about the Confederate flag started making the rounds. It may be your opinion that slavery was not the driving cause of the Civil War, but the Texas Articles of Secession mention slavery 21 times (rights are mentioned only six, and only once in a sentence that doesn’t mention either slavery or how way more flippin’ awesome white people are than black people). Do I even need to point out that some people are also of the opinion the Holocaust was fake, and that their opinion means absolutely nothing to the reality?

http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/no-...-wrong-7611752

[Jeff Lebowski]

https://medium.com/@thejohnprice/yes...r-6c4bb12c5b63

In America today, the most prominent, prevalent, and pernicious of these revisionist movements is the Lost Cause narrative: the idea that the Civil War was a romantic struggle for freedom against an oppressive government trying to enforce cultural change. There are scores of books on this topic, and you should check those out at your local library. But probably the most famous popular culture Lost Cause text is Gone With The Wind (both book and movie).

I hate Gone With the Wind. I hate everything about it. I hate its portrayal of the Civil War. I hate its portrayal of Southern aristocrats. I hate its popularity. I hate that it’s become an iconic movie. I hate that it was ever made in the first place. Gone With the Wind is Birth of a Nation with less horses. The movie, and its position among the American cinematic pantheon, has done more to further the ahistoric Lost Cause bullshit than any other single production. Because that’s the fundamental problem with the Lost Cause narrative: it’s not true.

Let’s go one-by-one through some typical Lost Cause-tinged revisionist talking points:

--The Civil War was about economics, not slavery!

Yes, the Civil War was about the economics of slavery.

--The Civil War was about states’ rights, not slavery!

Yes, the Civil War was about the states’ right to maintain slavery.

--That’s not the Confederate flag!

True, it’s the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, which actually makes your usage even worse. It’s the banner under which men fought and died to enact secession.

--Heritage not hate!

Funny story: the heritage is hate. This is my favorite talking point because it sets up a false dichotomy and then tries to pretend “heritage” is a signifier for some romantic, noble culture just waiting to be recaptured. When Lindsay Graham says things like, “The flag represents to some people a civil war, and that was the symbol of one side. To others it’s a racist symbol, and it’s been used by people, it’s been used in a racist way,” he makes a mockery of the history. Yes, Senator, it does represent one side of the Civil War: the side that advocated slavery and secession. It’s the flag of treason.

[wuapinmon]

http://texreg.sos.state.tx.us/public...09/2016&z_chk=

(B)The products of spontaneous or induced human abortion shall be subjected to one of the following methods of treatment and disposal:
(i)fetal tissue, regardless of the period of gestation, except as provided by §1.133 of this title (relating to Scope, Covering Exemptions and Minimum Parametric Standards for Waste Treatment Technologies Previously Approved by the Texas Department of State Health Services):
(I)incineration followed by interment;
(II)steam disinfection followed by interment; or
(III)interment;

[CardiacCoug]

http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/art...restling-title

Weird story that a wrestler getting testosterone to transition from girl to boy wins the girls state wrestling title. Seems like most kids who identify as male wouldn't choose to compete against girls.

[falafel]

http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/art...restling-title

Weird story that a wrestler getting testosterone to transition from girl to boy wins the girls state wrestling title. Seems like most kids who identify as male wouldn't choose to compete against girls.

It says he wanted to compete against the boys but wasn't allowed.