On abortion

[imanihonjin]

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I understand your point but you must admit determining when an unborn has rights that trump the mother s is difficult to administer given its floating nature.

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It is already being administered today.

[Goatnapper'96]

Name an instance where society claims a superior right over a man s body.

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The draft.

[Topper]

Which is invoked at times of emergency has a huge exception for conscientious objectors and will probably extend to women in the near future. Can the same be said of abortion?

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[All-American]

The draft.

[All-American]

Which is invoked at times of emergency has a huge exception for conscientious objectors and will probably extend to women in the near future. Can the same be said of abortion?

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I'm all for giving babies a chance to object to their abortion.

[Topper]

Men in control of women.

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[All-American]

Men in control of women.

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If you want to talk about subordination, guess how much more likely a female fetus is to be aborted than a male one. Or an African-American baby, instead of a Caucasian one.

[smokymountainrain]

Men in control of women.

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Women in control of babies. When will the madness ever stop?!

[creekster]

Which is invoked at times of emergency has a huge exception for conscientious objectors and will probably extend to women in the near future. Can the same be said of abortion?

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Well, no woman is forced to abort in an emergency, even at risk of their own life, and any woman who conscientiously objects to abortion can avoid it rather easily and birth control for men is available so, yes, the same can be said.

[Topper]

I understand the position and I cant think of a practical reason for a third trimester abortion. I am still uneasy that men so unashamedly regulate women.

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[All-American]

I understand the position and I cant think of a practical reason for a third trimester abortion. I am still uneasy that men so unashamedly regulate women.

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And what goes on in the clinic doesn't make you uneasy?

[Topper]

All abortions make me queasy.
I hate watching surgery but personal liberty is the highest virtue in society.

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[All-American]

All abortions make me queasy.
I hate watching surgery but personal liberty is the highest virtue in society.

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Locke and Jefferson would beg to differ. Well, maybe just Locke. But Jefferson agreed with Locke.

[CardiacCoug]

I have no idea how a libertarian or even a true conservative could want government restrictions on early-term abortions. You think about all the potential medical scenarios alone that may cause a family to decide abortion is the right choice, and why on earth should the government be involved in that decision in any way?

Isn't potential viability outside the womb the common-sense cutoff for legality of abortion? Once the fetus could potentially live outside the womb (around 24 weeks or so?) I would say it has rights independent of the mother and abortion should be illegal.

[myboynoah]

I have no idea how a libertarian or even a true conservative could want government restrictions on early-term abortions. You think about all the potential medical scenarios alone that may cause a family to decide abortion is the right choice, and why on earth should the government be involved in that decision in any way?

Isn't potential viability outside the womb the common-sense cutoff for legality of abortion? Once the fetus could potentially live outside the womb (around 24 weeks or so?) I would say it has rights independent of the mother and abortion should be illegal.

Stop it with all your common sense solutions.