SCOTUS

[falafel]

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wah-wah.

[Maximus]

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Yikes bro

[Jeff Lebowski]

The "We have to destroy democracy in order to save it" folks are at it again.

Sigh... I used to admire this guy.

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[Northwestcoug]

Hey everyone, instead of pursuing this path of mutually-assured destruction, how about we try this one simple trick? Term limits for SCOTUS.

If it doesn't make it better, at least we tried something before going nuclear.

[USUC]

What's funny is that Gorsuch and Barrett, and to a lesser extent kavanaugh, are the best Justices the country could ask for. And they were Trump appointees. He certainly wouldn't nominate them in 2026 though.

[Omaha 680]

Expanding the supreme court just a bit different than redistricting/gerrymandering. Trump has broken the conservative thought leaders much like he has broken many other things. Half of them are crazy for him and half of them are crazy against him; all of them have abandoned what they claimed where their core principles. Krauthammer was spared having to witness this nonsense by death.

[falafel]

What's funny is that Gorsuch and Barrett, and to a lesser extent kavanaugh, are the best Justices the country could ask for. And they were Trump appointees. He certainly wouldn't nominate them in 2026 though.

Uh, I assume you will allow for dissenting opinions....

[Pelado]

Uh, I assume you will allow for dissenting opinions....

Nope, concurring opinions only.

[frank ryan]

Expanding the supreme court just a bit different than redistricting/gerrymandering. Trump has broken the conservative thought leaders much like he has broken many other things. Half of them are crazy for him and half of them are crazy against him; all of them have abandoned what they claimed where their core principles. Krauthammer was spared having to witness this nonsense by death.

I don't like it and I don't like them floating the idea. Why? Because Trump totally is capable of doing this shit like this.

From my perspective, I find it frustrating that people get up n arms when Democrats return fire with the gerrymandering. They had been better on the issue. See California prior to their redistricting and remember Tom Delay served time for his involvement in a successful strategy to capture state legislatures and aggressively gerrymander.

I don't know that our institutions can handle much more MAGA, so I don't blame the Democrats for returning fire on that one. If you don't how that coming in the aftermath of what happened in Texas is relevant, your bias is showing

[Moliere]

Hey everyone, instead of pursuing this path of mutually-assured destruction, how about we try this one simple trick? Term limits for SCOTUS.

If it doesn't make it better, at least we tried something before going nuclear.

And make the scotus even more political? Horrible idea.

[Northwestcoug]

And make the scotus even more political? Horrible idea.

How could it become more political than it already is?

I’ve brought this up before. Lifetime appointments with the ability to steer judicial philosophy for decades are the biggest political decision a president can make. They have generational effects, good or bad. If you limit Supreme Court terms to a few years, the fallout of a bad judge is limited, and the pick itself doesn’t take on the almost life or death importance a pick has now.

If not term limits, could we at least get a mandatory age retirement?

[All-American]

How could it become more political than it already is?

Really?

[Maximus]

Really?

Yes really


We have 2 sc justices who pushed to overturn election

RobertS has let this go off the rails

[Moliere]

How could it become more political than it already is?

I’ve brought this up before. Lifetime appointments with the ability to steer judicial philosophy for decades are the biggest political decision a president can make. They have generational effects, good or bad. If you limit Supreme Court terms to a few years, the fallout of a bad judge is limited, and the pick itself doesn’t take on the almost life or death importance a pick has now.

If not term limits, could we at least get a mandatory age retirement?

I’m trying to decide if this even deserves a response it’s so ludicrous. You mean the court that is so political that it overturned Trumps tariffs and wouldn’t overturn Obamacare? The court that hasn’t banned abortion? The court that will likely uphold birthright citizenship? I’ll grant you that Alito, Thomas and the three liberal justices keep things very political, but Robert’s, ACB, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh seem to try to get things right based on their own interpretation of the law. This court is political but not nearly as much as the press wants you to believe. They still get things right most of the time.

[Northwestcoug]

Really?

I am serious. But I'm not talking about politization of the court. I'm talking about the picks themselves.

I’m trying to decide if this even deserves a response it’s so ludicrous. You mean the court that is so political that it overturned Trumps tariffs and wouldn’t overturn Obamacare? The court that hasn’t banned abortion? The court that will likely uphold birthright citizenship? I’ll grant you that Alito, Thomas and the three liberal justices keep things very political, but Robert’s, ACB, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh seem to try to get things right based on their own interpretation of the law. This court is political but not nearly as much as the press wants you to believe. They still get things right most of the time.

See above. The court will never stop being political, and I have no solution to make it less so. But the process of picking a SCOTUS is the holy grail of a presidential term. Presidents salivate for an opportunity to pick just one. Congress clears the legislative slate to pave the way for a pick, or put up roadblocks to delay one. Why? Because of the monumental implications of just one new justice, let alone a few. Justices themselves game the system when they decide to stay on long after they should, or just never retire. The mechanics surrounding a SCOTUS pick are way too political.

The fervor and all the politics surrounding picks would be taken down many notches with this one simple trick. Presidents get 1 or 2 picks a term. Justices serve 8 years. The court moves philosophically as a nation, as it should. Bad picks do not have generational effects on the courts.

Really, if you had to build a system from the ground up, in a nation that was born with a healthy skepticism of the government, you would not have lifetime appointments for any office. Or barring that, just make them retire at 75!