Shame on Orrin Hatch - The Patron Saint of Quack Medicine

[ERCougar]

I can't see the link. Does this Harvard grad Orthopaedic surgeon practice in SL?

Re: abx resistance. I nearly always get ID involved with whatever infection I am treating.

Paul William Winterton. Hard to tell where he practices, which may be why he's able to incorporate essential oils into his "practice", but it looks like he has some Utah ties (outside of Doterra):

" Paul William Winterton, MD, earned his medical degree from Harvard Medical School in 1993 and completed his orthopaedic residency at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota in 1998. He completed fellowship training at the Institute for Bone and Joint Disorders in Phoenix, Arizona in Sports Medicine, Shoulder and Knee Arthoscopy, and Foot and Ankle Reconstruction. In 2009 Dr. Winterton was elected as a member of the Board of Counselors of the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons. Dr. Winterton is also a member of the Executive Council of the Utah State Orthopaedics Society."

[San Juan Sun]

Paul William Winterton. Hard to tell where he practices, which may be why he's able to incorporate essential oils into his "practice", but it looks like he has some Utah ties (outside of Doterra):

" Paul William Winterton, MD, earned his medical degree from Harvard Medical School in 1993 and completed his orthopaedic residency at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota in 1998. He completed fellowship training at the Institute for Bone and Joint Disorders in Phoenix, Arizona in Sports Medicine, Shoulder and Knee Arthoscopy, and Foot and Ankle Reconstruction. In 2009 Dr. Winterton was elected as a member of the Board of Counselors of the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons. Dr. Winterton is also a member of the Executive Council of the Utah State Orthopaedics Society."

Sounds impressive. I'm just wondering what conditions he actually treats with essential oils.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I wonder if you met my SIL. She came away rejoicing about the blessings of oil. It was like a devotional to her.

Sadly, I met no one as I was too shy to seek them out, and they apparently thought me unworthy of their message. Had they approached, my first query would have included the words, "double blind studies." Maybe next time.

[hostile]

Paul William Winterton. Hard to tell where he practices, which may be why he's able to incorporate essential oils into his "practice", but it looks like he has some Utah ties (outside of Doterra):

" Paul William Winterton, MD, earned his medical degree from Harvard Medical School in 1993 and completed his orthopaedic residency at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota in 1998. He completed fellowship training at the Institute for Bone and Joint Disorders in Phoenix, Arizona in Sports Medicine, Shoulder and Knee Arthoscopy, and Foot and Ankle Reconstruction. In 2009 Dr. Winterton was elected as a member of the Board of Counselors of the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons. Dr. Winterton is also a member of the Executive Council of the Utah State Orthopaedics Society."

Yeah, that's who I thought it was. If he is touting doterra that tells me all I need to know.

[ERCougar]

Yeah, that's who I thought it was. If he is touting doterra that tells me all I need to know.

But not all WE need to know! Spill it, hostile!

[Donuthole]

Sadly, I met no one as I was too shy to seek them out, and they apparently thought me unworthy of their message. Had they approached, my first query would have included the words, "double blind placebo controlled studies." Maybe next time.

^Don't forget the other important part!

[ERCougar]

Sounds impressive. I'm just wondering what conditions he actually treats with essential oils.

Fibromyalgia? And I would fully support him in that. I'm just hoping that the bacteria never develop resistance!

[San Juan Sun]

Fibromyalgia? And I would fully support him in that. I'm just hoping that the bacteria never develop resistance!

I thought we treated fibromyalgia with gluten. And now they all have celiac disease (self-diagnosed, of course).

[ERCougar]

I thought we treated fibromyalgia with gluten. And now they all have celiac disease (self-diagnosed, of course).

Oils treat self diagnosed celiac too.

[The_Douger]

Oils treat self diagnosed celiac too.

And self diagnosed MRSA as well, so I heard yesterday in clinic. The patient was very surprised we are not up to date on this new miracle finding.

[thesaint258]

While waiting for our flight home Sunday, we were surrounded by a bunch of DoTerrans (was there a convention or something in SLC?), all totally amped about their wonderful product line. They were essentially street tracting around gates B 21-25. One sat behind me, chatting up the sad sack sitting next to her. Included in her pitch was the following line: "These oils are so effective that many physicians are now using them in their treatment of patients." I'm sure she would not lie or embellish, so I want to know why our heretofore esteemed panel of docs hasn't jumped on the DoTerra bandwagon. Probably falling behind on their CME requirements.

And I was bummed nobody approached me, as my personal field was white and ready to harvest.

That reminds me of the German-speaking Tahitian Noni acolyte that cornered me on the bus one day. Did you know that Tahitian Noni cured a horse's glaucoma?

[imanihonjin]

My friend also came away from the doTerra conference very uplifted. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that she is now Blue Diamond. A little googling reveals that the average Blue Diamond doTerra rep makes $450,000 per year.

They "make" $450,000/year as commissions but that isn't their profit. They sink a whole bunch of money into their downline trying to sign people up and keep the troops motivated.

[Northwestcoug]

They "make" $450,000/year as commissions but that isn't their profit. They sink a whole bunch of money into their downline trying to sign people up and keep the troops motivated.

So how much is your profit then?

[imanihonjin]

So how much is your profit then?

Sorry, I don't like to pay $28 for a small bottle of crappy shampoo.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

While waiting for our flight home Sunday, we were surrounded by a bunch of DoTerrans (was there a convention or something in SLC?), all totally amped about their wonderful product line. They were essentially street tracting around gates B 21-25. One sat behind me, chatting up the sad sack sitting next to her. Included in her pitch was the following line: "These oils are so effective that many physicians are now using them in their treatment of patients." I'm sure she would not lie or embellish, so I want to know why our heretofore esteemed panel of docs hasn't jumped on the DoTerra bandwagon. Probably falling behind on their CME requirements.

And I was bummed nobody approached me, as my personal field was white and ready to harvest.

I didn't realize that there was a whole thread for doTerra hiding behind Orin. I apologize for put stuff in the FB thread. A friend posted this last week.

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Check out the time stamp on that. 6:56 a.m.! That "motivation" oil is amazing!

Other good stuff from the convention:

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