trafficjamgate

[imanihonjin]

You wrote

You wrote it with a smirk, so you could later write, "I was joking," but also waiting to see how the winds would play out. You did have a lengthy discussion in another thread where you argued against the Judge Shelby decision, claiming you do not oppose gay marriage. You therefore have the label of homophobe hanging over you. So if somebody wants to start the concept that hating Hillary is equivalent to sexism, you do not have the credibility to do so.

I could see you thought you were clever but as is the nature of boards, it is more fun to engage than to stand back.

So much nonsense in this post, I don't even know where to begin. So you weren't joking, even though you said you were, and now you are admitting you weren't...all in the span of a few posts. Well done.

So somehow, even though I have stated no problem with gay marriage, because I have an issue with how the Judge arrived at his decision, I am a homophobe. Interesting.

The "sexist" comment was a play off of the observation that many negative comments about Obama and his policies are met with the counter that the negative comments are only being made because the commenter is racist, suggesting that the only way a person could disagree with anything Obama (or in your context Hillary) is because that person is racist. I didn't have to write it with a smirk because I thought a reasonably intelligent person would understand the context of that statement. I am sorry to have over estimated you.

I couldn't care less what you think of my credibility and you really should be the last about speaking to credibility on this board.

[wally]

Yep. Trax/Frontrunner is already heavily subsidized so I can't imagine prices coming down much. Although if people get too fed up with winter inversions...

Utah is one of a few states that offers a tax incentive for tesla cars too, although much less than California.

[cougjunkie]

Utah has done a poor job master planning transportation and has been very lenient in dealing with land developers, most of whom are state legislators. Add to this that Utah is a property rights state and that makes obtaining optimal corridor pretty hard.

All that said, you screwed yourself WRT transportation by living in Utah County. Your first clue for a difficult commute should have been that there is a mountain between your home and your work destination, SJBH!

It used to be a mountain. Not much of one anymore.

[TripletDaddy]

Utah has done a poor job master planning transportation and has been very lenient in dealing with land developers, most of whom are state legislators. Add to this that Utah is a property rights state and that makes obtaining optimal corridor pretty hard.

All that said, you screwed yourself WRT transportation by living in Utah County. Your first clue for a difficult commute should have been that there is a mountain between your home and your work destination, SJBH!

the mountain wasnt there when we bought the home

[byu71]

All that said, you screwed yourself WRT transportation by living in Utah County. Your first clue for a difficult commute should have been that there is a mountain between your home and your work destination, SJBH!

I am not surprised there are problems in Utah County. I just got an up close glimpse of the Utah County Commissioners and decisions they make. LOL, they are poster children for not going in and voting a straight party line.

[RC Vikings]

Traffic jams when you're already late.

Some may call it ironic but it just sounds like bad luck to me.

[USUC]

actually I believe SLC now sells a steeply discounted monthly pass for SLC residents only. You need a SLC address but the monthly pass drops from $200 a month to $30 a month. It went before city council back in October. I have to check back to see if it passed. If so, time to look into that option. Front Runner goes right by my office.

Good to know if true. My employer completely subsidizes UTA transportation so I use Trax most days. It adds over an hour to my commute which is frustrating, but ultimately saves me $100 a month on gas.

Edit - I should say adds on hour of time to my daily commute.

[TripletDaddy]

Good to know if true. My employer completely subsidizes UTA transportation so I use Trax most days. It adds over an hour to my commute which is frustrating, but ultimately saves me $100 a month on gas.

http://www.4utah.com/content/news/to...4kahB4ld2bBjRw

I need to figure out if it passed. want to get on this pass asap

[Moliere]

that has been my experience. if you are coming from Utah County, you are screwed both getting to the freeway and then getting downtown. FrontRunner has helped out somewhat on storm days but it is too cost prohibitive to make much sense as a daily solution.

I agree that if you are within the 215 loop, you can usually get around pretty well, especially when you add in Trax access.

Maybe the freeway planners were inspired but your weren't when you chose your house

[wally]

It used to be a mountain. Not much of one anymore.

lol good point! DDD just needs to wait it out for a few more decades until the soil in the mountain is spread all out under other roads, building footings or in concrete/asphalt and he can just drive across the decommissioned gravel pit and jump onto 215!

[All-American]

Why couldn't Utah receive some divine inspiration when laying out its freeway system, or lack thereof?

Because Johnson's Army gave Brigham the boot and ended Utah's theocratic system of government.

Too bad, really. Just think of what might have been if David O. McKay, as Church President, would also have been Utah's governor in 1956, when the Freeway bill was passed. At the very least, Utah County would have had its own beltway, that's for darn sure.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I listened to portions of Christie's press conference and was very impressed. If what he said is accurate, and no smoking gun (or even more tangible evidence) surfaces that he knew or approved of the reprehensible conduct of his staff, I think this will ultimately turn out to be a positive for him. There are screw-ups in any administration, and this is a rare instance of a leader quickly acknowledging the screw-up, canning those (apparently) responsible, and demonstrating a zero tolerance policy for such conduct going forward. Such an approach is very rare among Dems or Repubs, and he's going to benefit from this.

But again, it comes down to the accuracy of what Christie said today. If he's contradicted by the facts, his presidential aspirations are toast. If not, I think he's on his way up.

[Topper]

I listened to portions of Christie's press conference and was very impressed. If what he said is accurate, and no smoking gun (or even more tangible evidence) surfaces that he knew or approved of the reprehensible conduct of his staff, I think this will ultimately turn out to be a positive for him. There are screw-ups in any administration, and this is a rare instance of a leader quickly acknowledging the screw-up, canning those (apparently) responsible, and demonstrating a zero tolerance policy for such conduct going forward. Such an approach is very rare among Dems or Repubs, and he's going to benefit from this.

But again, it comes down to the accuracy of what Christie said today. If he's contradicted by the facts, his presidential aspirations are toast. If not, I think he's on his way up.

It was one of his better public presentations. It will really depend if there is anything beyond what he revealed. Again, I think voter memories are much shorter than you might believe.

[Katy Lied]

I've seen too many instances of minions taking their cues from their leader, so even if there is no direct link, their crass disregard for the welfare of their constituents (and no matter who the mayor is, they are all new jerseyites) is revolting and has got to be a reflection of their boss.

I might have voted for Christie once, but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[Topper]

I've seen too many instances of minions taking their cues from their leader, so even if there is no direct link, their crass disregard for the welfare of their constituents (and no matter who the mayor is, they are all new jerseyites) is revolting and has got to be a reflection of their boss.

I might have voted for Christie once, but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

You're going to be left with two ugly choices, Hillary or the GOP nominee. If it is Christie, you'd vote for the other ugly choice?