Same-sex marriage coming to Utah

[Commando]

That haircut is hilarious. The Hitler Youth Hipster cut is a pretty bad hair trend.

Yet a great name for a band! :rockon2:

[jay santos]

That video was terrible. Is the church's acting talent pool so bad that we have to get 40 year old soccer moms to play college students?

[Donuthole]

That video was terrible. Is the church's acting talent pool so bad that we have to get 40 year old soccer moms to play college students?

That casting choice felt pretty intentional, as the more mature adult is the one who shares the "enlightened" view.

FTR, I went to college with a lot of 40-year-old soccer moms. As did anyone who attended any sort of a commuter school.

[jay santos]

That casting choice felt pretty intentional, as the more mature adult is the one who shares the "enlightened" view.

FTR, I went to college with a lot of 40-year-old soccer moms. As did anyone who attended any sort of a commuter school.

Yeah, that part was just distracting. The main reason it was terrible is that church is spending this much time and resources to legitimize what reasonable people across the world see as no less than gay bashing. It's time to move on.

The church could make this same argument about every single issue that ever existed. "Don't force me in a job to serve black people, plenty of other people are willing to serve black people, it's against my religion, don't force me." Sure, the church has every right to work in the democratic process to try to marginalize and discriminate against anyone it wants to: blacks, gays, women, polygamists, soccer players. But no matter how much tithing money the church wastes in fighting this PR fight, people also have a right to think LDS are close minded, bigoted, religious nuts. The way to fight against that is not making these videos. It's to walk away from this fight we can't win.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Yeah, that part was just distracting. The main reason it was terrible is that church is spending this much time and resources to legitimize what reasonable people across the world see as no less than gay bashing. It's time to move on.

The church could make this same argument about every single issue that ever existed. "Don't force me in a job to serve black people, plenty of other people are willing to serve black people, it's against my religion, don't force me." Sure, the church has every right to work in the democratic process to try to marginalize and discriminate against anyone it wants to: blacks, gays, women, polygamists, soccer players. But no matter how much tithing money the church wastes in fighting this PR fight, people also have a right to think LDS are close minded, bigoted, religious nuts. The way to fight against that is not making these videos. It's to walk away from this fight we can't win.

I haven't watched the video. At this point, I'm more bothered by the churches attempt to bridge the gap and try to portray itself as loving to LGBTQ people. The church is not loving, accepting, or tolerant of LBGTQ people. You don't love, accept, or tolerate people that you are trying to marginalize and discriminate against. Stop with the bullshit PR trying to be something you are not. Go ahead and keep teaching your policies and own it, you are free to do that and will continue to be free to do that.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Funk, you seem to lead a miserable life. Constantly angry and raging about something or other.

[cougjunkie]

Funk, you seem to lead a miserable life. Constantly angry and raging about something or other.

He is a PC bro. If he is not upset or angry he has nothing to live for.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Funk, you seem to lead a miserable life. Constantly angry and raging about something or other.

It is interesting how wrong you are about that one. I'm actually extremely happy. So saying I'm "bothered" about something is demonstrating anger and rage?

[cougjunkie]

It is interesting how wrong you are about that one. I'm actually extremely happy. So saying I'm "bothered" about something is demonstrating anger and rage?

Yes.

[YOhio]

It is interesting how wrong you are about that one. I'm actually extremely happy. So saying I'm "bothered" about something is demonstrating anger and rage?

JL seems to think that anyone who isn't just like him is somehow angry and full of rage. Your cheerful and laid-back disposition is pretty much self-evident so I don't know what he's talking about.

[SoCalCoug]

I haven't watched the video. At this point, I'm more bothered by the churches attempt to bridge the gap and try to portray itself as loving to LGBTQ people. The church is not loving, accepting, or tolerant of LBGTQ people. You don't love, accept, or tolerate people that you are trying to marginalize and discriminate against. Stop with the bullshit PR trying to be something you are not. Go ahead and keep teaching your policies and own it, you are free to do that and will continue to be free to do that.

I'm with MP Funk here. I'm not raging, I'm not angry. It's disingenuous for the church to claim to be loving, tolerant or accepting of LGBTQ people. Own your doctrine. If your doctrine is that they're apostates, why try to claim otherwise?

[byu71]

JL seems to think that anyone who isn't just like him is somehow angry and full of rage. Your cheerful and laid-back disposition is pretty much self-evident so I don't know what he's talking about.

Anyone who doesn't appreciate his intellectual superiority is dumb, insensitive and out of touch with the culture.

[Jeff Lebowski]

It is interesting how wrong you are about that one. I'm actually extremely happy. So saying I'm "bothered" about something is demonstrating anger and rage?

Oh, I don't care if you bitch about the church's policy toward gays. That's low-hanging fruit. Just speaking of your entire body of work on any topic (religion, sports, food, music, whatever). You seem miserable.

Just an observation. Carry on.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Anyone who doesn't appreciate his intellectual superiority is dumb, insensitive and out of touch with the culture.

Zing!

[old_gregg]

wait, so people would rather the church explicitly issue policies about how lgbtq folks are sinners and apostates because talking about love, compassion, and acceptance is disingenuous? lol