Same-sex marriage coming to Utah

[Jacob]

Listen dude. I read legal opinions all the time. They are called opinions for a reason.

Lawyers don't deserve to even use the word reasoning.

There is also a good reason that lawyers are generally despised by people.

Now I'd like to go on record saying that I like and respect plenty of lawyers (SeattleUte, Nikuman, Levin).

But lawyers are generally not in the business of seeking truth. They advocate for their side and seek favorable opinions for their clients. It is not about truth. It's not even really about genuine reasoning. Very frequently, attempts are made to persuade on emotional basis rather than on genuine fact. It is so far from science that it isn't funny. It is an anti-science.

Well, at least we agree on this!

[SoonerCoug]

Well, at least we agree on this!

Now tell us why you have a problem with gays being married.

[Jacob]

Now tell us why you have a problem with gays being married.

This thread is about a legal ruling that declared all traditional marriage laws unconstitutional. The reasoning in that case is patently absurd and the ruling will be overturned.

We've talked about gay marriage and the arguments in favor and against enough in the past. I don't have a problem with gays doing whatever gays want to do.

[SoonerCoug]

This thread is about a legal ruling that declared all traditional marriage laws unconstitutional. The reasoning in that case is patently absurd and the ruling will be overturned.

We've talked about gay marriage and the arguments in favor and against enough in the past. I don't have a problem with gays doing whatever gays want to do.

If the judge had struck down a law saying that Jews couldn't be married, would that be absurd reasoning?

[Moliere]

Listen dude. I read legal opinions all the time. They are called opinions for a reason.

Lawyers don't deserve to even use the word reasoning.

There is also a good reason that lawyers are generally despised by people.

Now I'd like to go on record saying that I like and respect plenty of lawyers (SeattleUte, Nikuman, Levin).

But lawyers are generally not in the business of seeking truth. They advocate for their side and seek favorable opinions for their clients. It is not about truth. It's not even really about genuine reasoning. Very frequently, attempts are made to persuade on emotional basis rather than on genuine fact. It is so far from science that it isn't funny. It is an anti-science.

[Jacob]

If the judge had struck down a law saying that Jews couldn't be married, would that be absurd reasoning?

Lol. I guess it depends on what his reasoning was. The reasoning can be good or poor regardless of whether the result is proper. But I fail to see what Jews have to do with gays. I'm sure you do, but your posts indicate that you don't know what the terms reasoning and argument mean.

[Non Sequitur]

Lol. I guess it depends on what his reasoning was. The reasoning can be good or poor regardless of whether the result is proper. But I fail to see what Jews have to do with gays. I'm sure you do, but your posts indicate that you don't know what the terms reasoning and argument mean.

I'm chuckling because you just made Sooner's point and you don't even know it.

[TripletDaddy]

Listen dude. I read legal opinions all the time.

That's about as far as I went before laughing again.

[CardiacCoug]

I don't have a problem with gays doing whatever gays want to do.

Seems like a lot of them want to get married. Welcome aboard the pro-gay marriage train.

[Topper]

That's about as far as I went before laughing again.

That unintentionally humorous imho.

[CardiacCoug]

This thread is about a legal ruling that declared all traditional marriage laws unconstitutional. The reasoning in that case is patently absurd and the ruling will be overturned.

Jacob is killing it in this thread.

Most people who are against gay marriage use the justification of abstract religion. Jacob has opted instead to use the justification of abstract jurisprudence. Not sure which is more ridiculous but I'm leaning toward abstract jurisprudence.

Amazing to me that people with a straight face can think, "Yeah these 20-year olds who have known each other for 3 months can get married just because they are straight. But you guys who have been together for 30 years have no right to get married because you are gay."

That's not "patently absurd?"

[Jacob]

For smart people you doctors Can sound really dumb sometimes

[CardiacCoug]

For smart people you doctors Can sound really dumb sometimes

Whoa.

You got me there.

[Non Sequitur]

For smart people you doctors Can sound really dumb sometimes

Doctor smack is a losing proposition. They always come back with, "Yeah, well how many lives did you save last week?" Checkmate!

[DrumNFeather]

Doctor smack is a losing proposition. They always come back with, "Yeah, well how many lives did you save last week?" Checkmate!

"Yeah, but you DID have to check a lot of prostates too, so..."

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