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  • #91
    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Provo and Hawaii both allow Medicaid. Maybe exposure from a NYT article will be the needed pressure to comply like the rest of BYU.
    The article seems to think there is a BYU campus in Salt Lake with 33,000 students enrolled. #FailingNYTimes!

    But not getting sidetracked by that, this is a real head scratcher. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by beefytee View Post
      The article seems to think there is a BYU campus in Salt Lake with 33,000 students enrolled. #FailingNYTimes!

      But not getting sidetracked by that, this is a real head scratcher. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
      Well then, how can we even trust anything else written in the article?
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • #93
        Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
        Well then, how can we even trust anything else written in the article?
        Or in that newspaper?
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        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • #94
          It’s still weird that the BYU-I Medicaid policy was highlighted by the NYT, but it had its effect. They reversed the decision, two weeks after rolling it out.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
            It’s still weird that the BYU-I Medicaid policy was highlighted by the NYT, but it had its effect. They reversed the decision, two weeks after rolling it out.
            That was bizarre. But kudos for them for being willing to make a quick reversal.
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            • #96
              The BYUi medicaid thing was bizarre. I don't really have any evidence to back this up, but it kind of seems like it was something implemented by some overzealous lower level administrator without running it all the way up the chain. The Church itself seemed to be caught off-guard by media inquiries, and the reason BYUi gave for the policy--to prevent local medical providers from being overwhelmed--was absurd (especially where the local hospital repudiated those claims). I'm glad they reversed course, but it never should have been implemented in the first place.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                The BYUi medicaid thing was bizarre. I don't really have any evidence to back this up, but it kind of seems like it was something implemented by some overzealous lower level administrator without running it all the way up the chain. The Church itself seemed to be caught off-guard by media inquiries, and the reason BYUi gave for the policy--to prevent local medical providers from being overwhelmed--was absurd (especially where the local hospital repudiated those claims). I'm glad they reversed course, but it never should have been implemented in the first place.
                I’m inclined to believe this take. That excuse makes zero sense, and BYUI has always had that more extreme reputation. Also, why do they have a public position on the contraception issue?

                When I was an eligibility worker and with the state a bunch of BYU and Utah athletes were on pregnancy Medicaid.

                Sounds some busybody administrator has been listening to too much Sean Hannity.
                Last edited by frank ryan; 11-26-2019, 11:21 AM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                  The BYUi medicaid thing was bizarre. I don't really have any evidence to back this up, but it kind of seems like it was something implemented by some overzealous lower level administrator without running it all the way up the chain. The Church itself seemed to be caught off-guard by media inquiries, and the reason BYUi gave for the policy--to prevent local medical providers from being overwhelmed--was absurd (especially where the local hospital repudiated those claims). I'm glad they reversed course, but it never should have been implemented in the first place.
                  That was my thought as well.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                    I’m inclined to believe this take. That excuse makes zero sense, and BYUI has always had that more extreme reputation. Also, why do they have a public position on the contraception issue?

                    When I was an eligibility worker and with the state a bunch of BYU and Utah athletes were on pregnancy Medicaid.

                    Sounds some busybody administrator has been listening to too much Sean Hannity.
                    I had the same question when I read the NY Times article. As far as I am aware, the Church itself hasn't taken a position on whether Obamacare should cover contraceptives.

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                    • Yet another nail in the coffin of Obamacare... The individual mandate is ruled unconstitutional:

                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Any word on when Trump is going to make good on his promise of universal health coverage that will be better, cheaper, and "phenomenal" without leaving anyone worse off financially?

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                        • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          Yet another nail in the coffin of Obamacare... The individual mandate is ruled unconstitutional:

                          Wait, didn't the Supreme court already decide that is was constitutional and a tax?
                          Last edited by beefytee; 12-19-2019, 08:30 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                            Wait, didn't the Supreme court already decide that is was constitutional and a tax?
                            I haven't really followed the new case, but my understanding is that since Republicans repealed any penalty for violating the mandate the argument is that the mandate can no longer be considered a tax. Since the Supreme Court already said the mandate was not proper under the commerce clause, there is no longer any way to constitutionally justify the mandate.

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                            • Obamacare has helped a lot of people. What a weird crusade to be on. There’s almost a GOP superstition around it now.

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                              • Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                                I haven't really followed the new case, but my understanding is that since Republicans repealed any penalty for violating the mandate the argument is that the mandate can no longer be considered a tax. Since the Supreme Court already said the mandate was not proper under the commerce clause, there is no longer any way to constitutionally justify the mandate.
                                How is it a mandate now if there is no penalty or repercussions of not following it? How can someone be harmed by no penalty? Does the federal government ever auto sign people up for coverage or something?

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