Jeff Flake's racist son

[UVACoug]

What BYU's Randy Bott said just last year is a "bullshit accusation"?

What does Randy Bott have to do with Jeff Flake and his son?

[Uncle Ted]

What does Randy Bott have to do with Jeff Flake and his son?

If a full tenured BYU professor is saying shit in public like Bott did just last year then you can bet your ass that dumbass church leaders and seminary teachers (who were most likely Bott's students) are saying the same kind of crap to younger students in less public settings.

[Uncle Ted]

And all along the church is saying the same stupid statement... "ah, we don't know where that came from." The bullshit goes all the way up to the top apparently.

[UVACoug]

If a full tenured BYU professor is saying shit in public like Bott did just last year then you can bet your ass that dumbass church leaders and seminary teachers (who were most likely Bott's students) are saying the same kind of crap to younger students in less public settings.

LOL ... that is absurd. I took a class from Brother Bott. I guess I must be a racist too.

And I am still wondering how you make the leap from Bott to Jeff Flake teaching his son to be a racist. Did Flake take a class from Bott or something?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Apparently Jeff Flake didn't teach his son a lot of things.

He learned it from his friends. Therefore it is not racist.

[Uncle Ted]

He learned it from his friends. Therefore it is not racist.

LOL.

[Jeff Lebowski]

BTW, doesn't Jeff Flake have an account here?

[Uncle Ted]

I was always amazed at how many people I knew at BYU that would make jokes using those words. Good people who never intended anything malicious (and were certainly not racists), but didn't seem to understand (or to be bothered by) how offensive what they were saying was. I never really got that.

A lot of mormons are clueless and prejudiced when it comes to race. For example:

Even so, challenges remain. Church-owned BYU has 30,000 students and 1,226 professors, but only 254 black students and one full-time black faculty member.


For Josy Petit, a black BYU graduate from Queens, N.Y., who has been a Mormon since she was 8, being on the largely white campus helped her develop “a sense of humor — and ready answers” when confronted with insensitive comments and false assumptions.


“Even though they knew I was a top performing student, some of my professors just saw a black person,” she recalled. “Some of the nicer teachers asked me, ‘What sports do you play?’”


She got engaged to a white Mormon but had to call it off, she said, “because his family couldn’t get over the fact that I was black.”


Petit believes such prejudice is based on the former ban and continues to fester within Mormonism because members are uncomfortable talking about it.


“I wish (LDS leaders) had more confidence in their doctrine and that the Holy Ghost testifies of truth. Black members could be presented the historic information and still choose to stay, like I did, because of all the good there is in the church. Truth will carry them through.”

http://www.religionnews.com/2013/06/...ing-prejudice/

[Uncle Ted]

BTW, doesn't Jeff Flake have an account here?

I hope so.

[Uncle Ted]

LOL ... that is absurd. I took a class from Brother Bott. I guess I must be a racist too.

And I am still wondering how you make the leap from Bott to Jeff Flake teaching his son to be a racist. Did Flake take a class from Bott or something?

Flake seems like just another clueless white mormon that most likely believes he is more blessed than his "brothers and sisters" with darker skin. Otherwise he would have taught his son, "N1ggerkiller", that we are all God's children and equal in his eyes rather than the Bott bullshit.

[Commando]

Shaka w the PWN!!

[Commando]

Flake seems like just another clueless white mormon that most likely believes he is more blessed than his "brothers and sisters" with darker skin. Otherwise he would have taught his son, "N1ggerkiller", that we are all God's children and equal in his eyes rather than the Bott bullshit.

Great logical leap there.

[frank ryan]

Oh please ... I know Jeff Flake and I 100% guarantee you that he didn't teach his son any of that crap.

I can believe that

Kid is most likely emulating his thug heroes. A lot of kids do this and are too young/dumb to realize how it's offensive.

Read his tweets, it isn't a bunch rap influenced stuff it is anti-jewish, racist Nazi type stuff. There is a lot of that shit in Arizona. The kid is probably more into Skrewdriver than Tupac

[UVACoug]

Flake seems like just another clueless white mormon that most likely believes he is more blessed than his "brothers and sisters" with darker skin. Otherwise he would have taught his son, "N1ggerkiller", that we are all God's children and equal in his eyes rather than the Bott bullshit.

And what makes him "seem" that way ... other than the fact that he attends the same church as Randy Bott, of course.

[Maximus]

In this case it might be more of a problem with a pool of members in the church itself. Recall just a year ago what a professor of religion at BYU said:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...R_story_2.html

Not to mention a talk on "tolerance traps" in the last conference. The bottom line is a lot of mormons still believe that those with "skin of blackness" are "a dark, fitly, and loathsome" people but white people are "delightsome" and obedient. Jake Flake's son was most likely taught this by his parents, seminary teachers, and/or church leaders. Growing up I was told by seminary teachers and church leaders that people with darker skin is a sign of that these folks were less obedient in both the preexistence and in this life as well.

Are you really comparing bott with what this kid said, and do you really think the kid was taught this racist stuff?