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  • #76
    Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Capitalism, regulated capitalism, is the best way of alleviating human suffering, because it's not a zero-sum game. Other systems are flawed because they ignore human greed, whereas capitalism rewards it. Regulation should keep the greed in check, and taxes assure that capital isn't forever concentrated in a few hands. I love capitalism.

    Some Mormons, especially those from Utah-Idaho-Arizona, have absolutely zero clue about what life in a post-colonial society is like. The social safety nets were put in place precisely to right past wrongs. The effect was disastrous, but when I was a child, there were still people living in shacks without running water. Now they live in crime-ridden places, but that has more to do with the War on Drugs, fathers dying young or not having taxable reportable income, and the destruction of the family in minority communities, and less to do with WIC and SNAP.

    Generational poverty existed long before the Great Society.
    I agree. However, I think the war on poverty has been about as successful as the war on drugs. I think we have an obligation to provide a safety net and an opportunity for others to help themselves. I just think there is no real winning the war on poverty.
    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
    -General George S. Patton

    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
    -DOCTOR Wuap

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    • #77
      Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
      Is the Pope down with OPP?
      Si, mi sabes!
      Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
      -General George S. Patton

      I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
      -DOCTOR Wuap

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      • #78
        Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
        Is the Pope down with OPP?
        Francis, drop a load on 'em.
        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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        • #79
          Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
          Is the Pope down with OPP?
          first you have to 'splain it.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
            I agree. However, I think the war on poverty has been about as successful as the war on drugs. I think we have an obligation to provide a safety net and an opportunity for others to help themselves. I just think there is no real winning the war on poverty.
            Agreed. And it needs some reforms. But, I assure you that you would have reeled from the living conditions that existed prior to its creation had you witnessed them. We're talking abject crushing poverty worse than anything that exists in this country anymore.
            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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            • #81
              Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
              Agreed. And it needs some reforms. But, I assure you that you would have reeled from the living conditions that existed prior to its creation had you witnessed them. We're talking abject crushing poverty worse than anything that exists in this country anymore.
              I think everyone's standard of living has significantly increased since then. I am not sure I want to live today like even rich people did in the 1950's. However, I will take this chance to point out that without the widespread economic development that capitalism spawned those folks in Appalachia would still be living in shacks.
              Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
              -General George S. Patton

              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
              -DOCTOR Wuap

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                first you have to 'splain it.
                O is for other P is for People's, scratch your temple, the last P? Well that's not that simple, it's sorta like another way to call a cat a kitten. There's five little letters that I'm missing.
                Get confident, stupid
                -landpoke

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                  O is for other P is for People's, scratch your temple, the last P? Well that's not that simple, it's sorta like another way to call a cat a kitten. There's five little letters that I'm missing.
                  commies seem like cat people, so I am going to say Yes. The Pope is definitely down with OPP.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                    I think everyone's standard of living has significantly increased since then. I am not sure I want to live today like even rich people did in the 1950's. However, I will take this chance to point out that without the widespread economic development that capitalism spawned those folks in Appalachia would still be living in shacks.

                    Well, Appalachians still live in shacks....by choice. I'm talking about rural blacks in the Deep South. Their economic outlook has only worsened since the 1950's, so I wouldn't expect anything to have changed without the infusion of capital from without from Washington. State governments ignored the issues. It was only northern crusaders who made anything change. King found little audience in the Southern power structure outside Atlanta politicians. It was the media and the north who got things moving and put the screws to Johnson.
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                      O is for other P is for People's, scratch your temple, the last P? Well that's not that simple, it's sorta like another way to call a cat a kitten. There's five little letters that I'm missing.
                      Off Post Privileges. The song is about West Point Firsties getting to leave the Academy after final duties or 1800 hours, whichever comes last, and not having to return until 2315. I used OPPs to go to many Yankees and Mets games.
                      Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                      -General George S. Patton

                      I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                      -DOCTOR Wuap

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                        O is for other P is for People's, scratch your temple, the last P? Well that's not that simple, it's sorta like another way to call a cat a kitten. There's five little letters that I'm missing.
                        You try to act like something really big is missin', even though my next graffiti's written on your kitten. I know it's another song, but it's his best line ever.
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • #87
                          The Pope to Naughty By Nature. I heart CS.
                          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                            Si, mi sabes!
                            And Wuapinmon wept.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                              And Wuapinmon wept.
                              I am still waiting for a real spanish speaker to let me know if that is correct or not. It has been 24 years since I was a HS JR sitting in Mr McKnight's (McNOCHE..get it?) Spanish III class.
                              Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                              -General George S. Patton

                              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                              -DOCTOR Wuap

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                                Is the Pope down with OPP?
                                Yeah, you know See!
                                "What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone

                                "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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