What is wrong with California?

[Omaha 680]

o_g with a metal straw is like when Uncle Phil broke out his own cue at that seedy pool hall on Fresh Prince of Bel Airn

[BigFatMeanie]

Eh - they're fixing a problem that doesn't exist. No one in Utah is going after parents for letting their kids walk home from school or playing outside.

As Senator Escamilla alludes to in the article - some of that will ALWAYS be based on the capacity of the child. But as it is, there is not a specific age in Utah for kids to be allowed to be left unsupervised, or a specific amount of time that a child can be left without supervision. Right now, if there is a report it is based on an evaluation of the capacity of the child.

That isn't going to change. I doubt Senator Fillmore is suggesting that a 1 year old should be allowed to walk to the park to play by himself without someone questioning the parents. And I doubt he would be in favor of situations like the one that came up a few years ago when the parents went to Wendover for the weekend and left their 6, 4, and 3 year old's home alone with the deadbolt locked and enough crackers and snacks to get them through a couple of days.

The DCFS director was very kind in her remarks - but I know for a fact that the front line staff are rolling their eyes at the senator creating a new law to address an issue that has never been an issue.

They're not "fixing a problem that doesn't exist", they're proactively changing the existing law to prevent a problem which has occurred in other states from occurring in Utah.
They're not "creating a new law", they're amending an existing section of the Utah Code to change the definitions of parental neglect.

[Uncle Ted]

Teachers in California are so dumb...

A teacher called members of the military ‘the lowest of our low.’ The video made people furious.

A high school teacher in a small city on the outskirts of Los Angeles became the subject of harsh criticism — and, he said, violent threats — after a video of him slamming the U.S. military went viral.

Gregory Salcido, who works at a high school in Pico Rivera and also serves on the city council, said in the video that members of the military fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan were “the lowest of the low.” The video was reportedly taken in the middle of a history class Salcido was teaching, as he launched into a rant about how long the wars overseas have dragged on.

“Because we have a bunch of dumbs‑‑‑s over there,” Salcido said in the video, which is peppered with profanity. “Think about the people who you know who are over there. Your freaking stupid Uncle Louie or whatever. They’re dumbs‑‑‑s. They’re not like high-level thinkers, they’re not academic people, they’re not intellectual people. They’re the lowest of our low.”
[...]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.fea533e46a25

If the teacher wasn't an actual 'dumbsh*t' he would know that the military is actually better educated that the general public, those they serve...

https://www.facethefactsusa.org/fact...caps-and-gowns

What a big dummy.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Teachers in California are so dumb...
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If the teacher wasn't an actual 'dumbsh*t' he would know that the military is actually better educated that the general public, those they serve...
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Well, at least in California we're taught to resist drawing conclusions from a sample size of one. If only there were a Texas teacher who had ever said something stupid perhaps this Californian could return fire....

Although I have great respect for the military and acknowledge the stupidity of everyone in your sample size, the rebuttal evidence isn't all that compelling. For example, the pie charts show that 93% of enlisted personnel have either a high school diploma or some college education, compared with only 59% of the general population. But the difference between the education levels of enlisted personnel and adults within the general population is actually pretty minimal--the general population chart apparently includes children under the age of 18, very few of whom (the shock!) have neither a high school diploma or any college education. I'd also expect that the percentage of American workers in supervisory positions with bachelor's degrees would be similar to that of military officers, or would at least be far greater than 30%.

[originalsocal]

Well, at least in California we're taught to resist drawing conclusions from a sample size of one. If only there were a Texas teacher who had ever said something stupid perhaps this Californian could return fire....

Although I have great respect for the military and acknowledge the stupidity of everyone in your sample size, the rebuttal evidence isn't all that compelling. For example, the pie charts show that 93% of enlisted personnel have either a high school diploma or some college education, compared with only 59% of the general population. But the difference between the education levels of enlisted personnel and adults within the general population is actually pretty minimal--the general population chart apparently includes children under the age of 18, very few of whom (the shock!) have neither a high school diploma or any college education. I'd also expect that the percentage of American workers in supervisory positions with bachelor's degrees would be similar to that of military officers, or would at least be far greater than 30%.

[Uncle Ted]

Well, at least in California we're taught to resist drawing conclusions from a sample size of one. If only there were a Texas teacher who had ever said something stupid perhaps this Californian could return fire....

Although I have great respect for the military and acknowledge the stupidity of everyone in your sample size, the rebuttal evidence isn't all that compelling. For example, the pie charts show that 93% of enlisted personnel have either a high school diploma or some college education, compared with only 59% of the general population. But the difference between the education levels of enlisted personnel and adults within the general population is actually pretty minimal--the general population chart apparently includes children under the age of 18, very few of whom (the shock!) have neither a high school diploma or any college education. I'd also expect that the percentage of American workers in supervisory positions with bachelor's degrees would be similar to that of military officers, or would at least be far greater than 30%.

Maybe you would believe Rick Santorum:

According to census data, 209.3 million people in the United States are 25 years old or older, and 66.9 million have a bachelor’s degree or higher (such as a master’s, professional or doctoral degree). That means about 68 percent of them do not have a bachelor’s degree. If we include people who have an academic associate degree -- about 11.7 million people -- the percentage of people without a degree declines slightly, to 62 percent.


The U.S. Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics looked at the same question in a 2014 longitudinal study that followed young people to age 27. It found that by that age, 72 percent of respondents did not have bachelor's degrees.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-rick-santoru/

Of course, those fact checkers are usually full of sh*t too.

[creekster]

Well, at least in California we're taught to resist drawing conclusions from a sample size of one. If only there were a Texas teacher who had ever said something stupid perhaps this Californian could return fire....

Although I have great respect for the military and acknowledge the stupidity of everyone in your sample size, the rebuttal evidence isn't all that compelling. For example, the pie charts show that 93% of enlisted personnel have either a high school diploma or some college education, compared with only 59% of the general population. But the difference between the education levels of enlisted personnel and adults within the general population is actually pretty minimal--the general population chart apparently includes children under the age of 18, very few of whom (the shock!) have neither a high school diploma or any college education. I'd also expect that the percentage of American workers in supervisory positions with bachelor's degrees would be similar to that of military officers, or would at least be far greater than 30%.

This is all true but, even if it is, what the teacher claimed was untrue. The military might be pretty close to typical as to educational attainment, but it is not comprised of the 'lowest of the low.' What the guy said was ridiculous and incorrect either way.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Maybe you would believe Rick Santorum:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-rick-santoru/

Of course, those fact checkers are usually full of sh*t too.

Rick Santorum is writing about all Americans, my point (which you highlighted) referred to Americans in supervisory positions (the closest analog I could provide for military officers). I'd guess substantially more than 30% of supervisors have bachelor's degrees, but I've already grown tired of the discussion so I won't bother to confirm or refute my guess.

This is all true but, even if it is, what the teacher claimed was untrue. The military might be pretty close to typical as to educational attainment, but it is not comprised of the 'lowest of the low.' What the guy said was ridiculous and incorrect either way.

No argument; as noted, the guy was remarkably stupid.

[snowcat]

It may be time to rethink that trip planned for San Francisco.

An NBC Bay Area Investigation reveals a dangerous concoction of drug needles, garbage, and feces lining the streets of downtown San Francisco. The Investigative Unit surveyed more than 150 blocks, including some of the city’s top tourist destinations, and discovered conditions that are now being compared to some of the worst slums in the world.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...472430013.html

[beefytee]

It may be time to rethink that trip planned for San Francisco.



https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...472430013.html

I just went in October. Had a great time. There were a lot of homeless people. Didn't see any needles or feces at the places we walked. The only issue was some drunk/high lady following us telling us how beautiful our oldest son was. She was pretty harmless though.

[old_gregg]

turns out cities with dense populations face unique challenges!

[snowcat]

turns out cities with dense populations face unique challenges!

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[Uncle Ted]

It may be time to rethink that trip planned for San Francisco.



https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...472430013.html

San Fran isn't bad... have you been to LA?

They need to raise everyones' taxes in California and do something about this.

[Walter Sobchak]

San Fran isn't bad... have you been to LA?

Seattle: Hold my beer.

[Pelado]

Seattle: Hold my beer.

Save it for the "What is wrong with Washington?" thread.