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  • #16
    Those of you suggesting a rescue mission seem a bit naive about space flight. You can't get another launch ready to go in less than a week.

    Regarding the shuttle, here is a very interesting article written about a year before the first shuttle launch. The author had a pretty good understanding of the risks involved.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...-fulltext.html

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
      Those of you suggesting a rescue mission seem a bit naive about space flight. You can't get another launch ready to go in less than a week.

      Regarding the shuttle, here is a very interesting article written about a year before the first shuttle launch. The author had a pretty good understanding of the risks involved.

      http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...-fulltext.html
      Yes, even before Columbia the estimated 'catastrophic failure'' rate of the shuttle program was 1 in 78 flights.
      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • #18
        If you people haven't watched the documentary on the US space program (called When We Left Earth...I think) then you should. Great documentary and talks about the early astronauts, who were not only brilliant minds but crazier daredevils than anything seen in the X games. Dudes had balls of steel.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
          Those of you suggesting a rescue mission seem a bit naive about space flight. You can't get another launch ready to go in less than a week.

          Regarding the shuttle, here is a very interesting article written about a year before the first shuttle launch. The author had a pretty good understanding of the risks involved.

          http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...-fulltext.html
          But more important, if it does fly, it won't do anything those old throw-away rockets couldn't do. You've probably heard, for instance, that the space shuttle will retrieve damaged satellites and return them to earth for repair. Not so. It can't. Simply and flatly, can't. And, according to The Washington Monthly's sources, flying the shuttle will cost more, not less, than flying those old disposable rockets.
          Scott (or anyone), did the part I bolded end up being true?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by scottie View Post
            Scott (or anyone), did the part I bolded end up being true?
            It looks like it, but it depends on who you ask.

            For example, I'm not sure they could have done the Hubble repair missions without the shuttle. They would have had to invent something bigger than an Apollo capsule to take more people up into the high orbit, and bring along a bunch of stuff for the repairs.

            I've read a lot about the space program and quite a few biographies of astronauts, especially the early ones. It's probably time to read more about space shuttles, space stations, and more recent space flights.

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            • #21
              Can't believe it has been that long.

              My dad blamed terrorists. When I protested he said, "So it's just coincidence that the plane blew up over Palestine, Texas?"

              Oh, daddy.....
              Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

              "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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              • #22
                Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                the Space Shuttle Columbia broke up as it was re-entering. Another tragic moment.

                Apparently, mission control knew it was going to happen, but decided not to tell the shuttle crew. The reasoning was that it was better that they die unexpectedly.
                What a horrible piece of information to have to sit on.

                I'm not sure I agree with the reasoning that they 'would rather not know,' though. He's assuming a lot there. I think some, if not all, of the crew would like to have at least had the opportunity to say goodbye to their families.

                The whole situation just sucks, though.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Realtall View Post
                  What a horrible piece of information to have to sit on.

                  I'm not sure I agree with the reasoning that they 'would rather not know,' though. He's assuming a lot there. I think some, if not all, of the crew would like to have at least had the opportunity to say goodbye to their families.

                  The whole situation just sucks, though.
                  My impression from the press conference at the time was that they had a good idea there was a problem, but that there was absolutely nothing they could do about it to save the crew (given the remaining oxygen & supplies on the shuttle). So they elected not to say anything. That's a really tough situation to be in. Some people say one of the other orbiters could be hurriedly prepared, but could they really do it in time before the crew ran out of O2? And might the lifeboat shuttle suffer the same damage at launch? I understand that later shuttle flights took repair kits to get out and patch any gaping holes from launch, but the Columbia didn't have anything like that on board.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Realtall View Post
                    What a horrible piece of information to have to sit on.

                    I'm not sure I agree with the reasoning that they 'would rather not know,' though. He's assuming a lot there. I think some, if not all, of the crew would like to have at least had the opportunity to say goodbye to their families.

                    The whole situation just sucks, though.
                    It was a tough dilemma, no doubt about it. You may be right that they would like to have been able to say goodbye to their families. If I think about it, I would most likely rather have the chance to say goodbye, but I would also know that I was going to die and that makes me be honest enough to say that I would prefer not to know.
                    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                      It was a tough dilemma, no doubt about it. You may be right that they would like to have been able to say goodbye to their families. If I think about it, I would most likely rather have the chance to say goodbye, but I would also know that I was going to die and that makes me be honest enough to say that I would prefer not to know.
                      I imagine that they know there are some significant risks involved in these flights - to the degree that I would be surprised if everyone involved hadn't written some short of "goodbye" letter to be given to family in the event of an accident.

                      Heck - my wife writes one of those for our kids every time we're gone overnight from them.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                        I imagine that they know there are some significant risks involved in these flights - to the degree that I would be surprised if everyone involved hadn't written some short of "goodbye" letter to be given to family in the event of an accident.

                        Heck - my wife writes one of those for our kids every time we're gone overnight from them.
                        That's a good point and I would guess that you're correct that they did something like that.
                        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                        "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                        • #27
                          I was awarded my D.Phil. on this date.

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                          • #28
                            10 years ago today, I did not have sex with my ex-wife.
                            If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

                            "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

                            "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                              10 years ago today, I did not have sex with my ex-wife.
                              LOL.

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