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    10 years ago today...

    the Space Shuttle Columbia broke up as it was re-entering. Another tragic moment.

    Apparently, mission control knew it was going to happen, but decided not to tell the shuttle crew. The reasoning was that it was better that they die unexpectedly.
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    Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
    the Space Shuttle Columbia broke up as it was re-entering. Another tragic moment.

    Apparently, mission control knew it was going to happen, but decided not to tell the shuttle crew. The reasoning was that it was better that they die unexpectedly.
    I hadn't heard that before. What a crazy ethical dilemma. I probably would have made the same decision in hopes that the shuttle returns safely, which it seemed was known to be a very, very slim possibility.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Moliere View Post
      I hadn't heard that before. What a crazy ethical dilemma. I probably would have made the same decision in hopes that the shuttle returns safely, which it seemed was known to be a very, very slim possibility.
      I think I would have done the same as well. It would be very difficult knowing that there wasn't anything to be done, so I can understand why they didn't tell them about the problem.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Indy Coug
        Why didn't they have any way to either rescue them with another vehicle or have a contingency plan to enable them to fix it?

        According to the article, the shuttle was too far away from the space station and another shuttle wouldn't be able to reach them before the oxygen would be gone.

        As for a contingency plan, it seems that there's always something else that comes up when things go wrong.
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        • #5
          There's no reason they shouldn't have had as part of any shuttle mission a means whereby they could be rescued with another vehicle. Simple contingency planning.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
            There's no reason they shouldn't have had as part of any shuttle mission a means whereby they could be rescued with another vehicle. Simple contingency planning.
            I agree with you, but hindsight is always 20/20.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
              I agree with you, but hindsight is always 20/20.
              I don't think this is something that should have been hindsight. It should have been fundamental foresight.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                There's no reason they shouldn't have had as part of any shuttle mission a means whereby they could be rescued with another vehicle. Simple contingency planning.
                Every life has a price and having a backup space shuttle fueled and ready to go was probably more than that price.
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                • #9
                  My dad, who was a part of that early pioneering in space, said long before the second shuttle disaster that he would be glad when the Space Shuttle was retired. There were just too many things that could go wrong with it.

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                  • #10
                    That's some bullshit. However painful, those families should have had a chance to say good by to their loved ones. Or am I just being a boob?

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                    • #11
                      This was when we lived in Dallas. We saw the explosion live and much of the debris was found not far East of us.
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                      • #12
                        I was working at the space center in Utah when it happened. Imagine that.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                          This was when we lived in Dallas. We saw the explosion live and much of the debris was found not far East of us.
                          I was in Dallas and saw it live as well. I heard a noise so I went outside and saw what I initially thought was some kind meteorite breaking up.
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                          • #14
                            I was at a yard sale in New Orleans. Someone told us what had happened.
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                            • #15
                              I was at home listening to NPR that morning. It was a Saturday.
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