What is the purpose of assault weapons?

[Shaka]

As Sooner admitted, he hasn't ever been around guns so why not hoist his views on others.

This is the real issue in this thread.

[Indy Coug]

China is working on getting the plan and their wacko only stabbed people and they didn't die. You may have a point.

I will bet North Korea has very, very few incidents of aggressive behavior by their citizens.

This claims North Korea's rate is high, but I have no idea how you would get credible data for them. The Arabian peninsula countries have many of the lowest homicide rates, however.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[byu71]

This is the real issue in this thread.

It is one thing I have noticed about liberals. They are very passionate in their concern for rights of minorities unless of course those in the minority are on the wrong side of an issue they care about.

[RC Vikings]

This claims North Korea's rate is high, but I have no idea how you would get credible data for them. The Arabian peninsula countries have many of the lowest homicide rates, however.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Honduras with the highest rate. I'm glad my kid is home.

[byu71]

Honduras with the highest rate. I'm glad my kid is home.

I will bet you are. That made me wonder how tough Mexico's gun laws are?

They must have at least some tough ones after hearing about the marines plight who is in a Mexican jail right now.

[creekster]

Should we wait until it happens again?

At least approach the debate honestly. If you can't identify any obvious differences between debating in the moment of this tragedy and doing so after emotions have settled then you need to reflect more before posting again.

[calicoug]

At least approach the debate honestly. If you can't identify any obvious differences between debating in the moment of this tragedy and doing so after emotions have settled then you need to reflect more before posting again.

I do see a difference. 26 more people are dead than they were the last time this was discussed. Ironic that gun proponents advocate a "cooling off period" for conversations about gun control but not actually for gun control. We want people totally calm and sedated when discussing gun control. Not pertinent when buying a gun though.

[byu71]

I do see a difference. 26 more people are dead than they were the last time this was discussed. Ironic that gun proponents advocate a "cooling off period" for conversations about gun control but not actually for gun control. We want people totally calm and sedated when discussing gun control. Not pertinent when buying a gun though.

I wonder how many deaths due to alcohol there have been since a ban on alcohol was discussed?

[LA Ute]

Gallup: To Stop Shootings, Americans Focus on Police, Mental Health
Democrats substantially more likely to see assault gun ban as effective

Americans are most likely to say that an increased police presence at schools, increased government spending on mental health screening and treatment, and decreased depiction of gun violence in entertainment venues would be effective in preventing mass shootings at schools. Americans rate the potential effectiveness of a ban on assault and semi-automatic guns as fourth on a list of six actions Gallup asked about.

[old_gregg]

It is one thing I have noticed about liberals. They are very passionate in their concern for rights of minorities unless of course those in the minority are on the wrong side of an issue they care about.

And one thing I have noticed about conservatives is that they are beer swilling, NASCAR watching racist homophobic uneducated nationalists with major hubris about their ideas of economics. Generalizations are fun!

[LA Ute]

And one thing I have noticed about conservatives is that they are beer swilling, NASCAR watching racist homophobic uneducated nationalists with major hubris about their ideas of economics.

You say that like it is a bad thing.

[Uncle Ted]

Name one mass shooting where the shooter used a weapon banned by the federal assault weapon ban.

Wouldn't you say the law worked?

It's not really a valid argument against a weapon ban when you point out that the shooter used a legal weapon.

And yet I keep seeing it made.

Based on the comment from Professor Daniel Webster who studies firearm policy and gun violence prevention and is most likely an expert in this field:

SIEGEL: The ban covered certain semiautomatic weapons, but not all. And it covered large-capacity magazines. That is magazines, I gather, of more than 10 rounds. First, very generally, did it work?

WEBSTER: It did not have a significant impact on overall rates of gun violence. The researchers who studied this could not define any detectable difference in the use, particularly of guns with large-capacity magazines, which are far more prevalent as it relates to this ban.

I would say the assault weapon ban "did not have a significant impact on overall rates of gun violence" according to the experts.

There was assault weapon ban in the state of CT and it didn't stop the latest shooting in Newton. One of the guns that the crazy was carrying may have been considered an assault weapon but he was carrying 3 or 4 weapons and most would not be considered assault weapons. Also, why do you thing someone that is crazy is going to obey an assault weapons ban when he is violating something like 20 other laws that are far more severe? For example, he shouldn't have taken all those weapons into that "gun free" zone but he did anyway. The "gun free" zone law should have stopped him.

[Uncle Ted]

Obama 2008: ‘If you are a law abiding gun owner you have nothing to fear from an Obama administration'

See, there is nothing to fear.

[calicoug]

Based on the comment from Professor Daniel Webster who studies firearm policy and gun violence prevention and is most likely an expert in this field:



I would say the assault weapon ban "did not have a significant impact on overall rates of gun violence" according to the experts.

There was assault weapon ban in the state of CT and it didn't stop the latest shooting in Newton. One of the guns that the crazy was carrying may have been considered an assault weapon but he was carrying 3 or 4 weapons and most would not be considered assault weapons. Also, why do you thing someone that is crazy is going to obey an assault weapons ban when he is violating something like 20 other laws that are far more severe? For example, he shouldn't have taken all those weapons into that "gun free" zone but he did anyway. The "gun free" zone law should have stopped him.

Everyone keeps skipping step one. Whether a prior ban worked or didn't doesn't mean there isn't a way a ban could work. It also has no bearing on whether a ban should be attempted. Go back to step one.

[calicoug]

I wonder how many deaths due to alcohol there have been since a ban on alcohol was discussed?

Start a thread on why you want alcohol banned then.