The Fiscal Cliff

[UVACoug]

I'm not refuting your point, but Cruz's credentials and legal experience are infinitely better than Obama's -- a point that you probably don't disagree with because I know you're no fan of Obama. One of the more curious aspects of Obama's resume is the fact that he went pretty much nowhere in the legal profession right out of law school (I'm not talking about his success at getting into elected positions later on). Cruz clerked for a federal appeals judge, which is a very competitive position to get and then clerked for the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court which is an exceptionally difficult position to obtain. It's pretty much the most prestigious job someone can get out of law school. It's the type of resume that a future Supreme Court Justice has -- in fact, Cruz's early legal resume mirrors John Roberts' resume. Both went to Harvard, both first clerked for federal appeals judges and both clerked for William Rehnquist immediately after. Cruz then worked for a short time for a prestigious boutique appellate practice in DC (John Roberts was a very well-recognized, perhaps the best respected appellate attorney in the United States prior to getting appointed to the federal bench). After that he was a part in the attorney general's office in the Bush administration and thereafter went into Texas politics.

In contrast, Obama went directly back to Chicago where he again became a professional turd-stirrer. Because his multi-ethnic and international upbringing combined with his time at Harvard made every law school cream their pants, he became a lecturer at the University of Chicago where he published nothing of note. He has however published two autobiographies. He was also a state legislator of no renown. He then gave a nice speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention and won his Senate election aided by outing his original opponent as a big fan of pegging in the bedroom with his wife who played Q in one of the dozens of Star Trek series. He then started running for president after being in the Senate for a couple years.

Anyway, Cruz's legal, professional and political experience blows away the resume Obama had prior to running for president. That of course doesn't mean that he didn't act very foolishly in this whole ordeal. But I think it's ridiculous to say that Cruz is somehow not qualified to be a Senator because of his resume. He probably has one of the best resumes in the Senate and it's substantially better than the one Obama had when he ran for president.

Which tells me he isn't stupid enough to think this little horse and pony show he was directing would have ever accomplished anything. It was a complete sham and it is disgusting to see so many people on the far right fall for it. His motive was not to save the country from Obamacare as he claims ... it was to appear as a hero to the Tea Party so he can raise money and potentially position himself for a run for the White House. Nothing about this stunt was sincere.


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[UVACoug]

I applaud Lee and Cruz. Yeah, the strategy didn't work. It was a hail mary but that's what was needed; a last ditch effort to stop or delay Obamacare. It's a done deal now and it will be a disaster. How does government deal with failed programs? Make them bigger! Hello single payer socialized medicine!

It wasn't even a Hail Mary. There was a zero-percent chance of success. Why would you applaud such a blatant attempt at self-aggrandizement at the expense of our credibility in the world?

[myboynoah]

Folks, remember back during the first Obama campaign when Palin burst onto the scene. She stood there, looked fairly attractive, had a lot of energy, didn't trip as she crossed the stage, was a governor. We all thought, "Awesome. How can this go wrong?" Then time passed. The same thing is happening with Cruz. There are just some people you shouldn't trust to drive your car. Palin because she would get lost, bring it back late all cluttered with McDo garbage and animal crackers, and the the fuel gauge on E. Cruz because he'd total it and just walk away.

They're both dumb. Yes, a different kind of dumb, but dumb nonetheless.

[Omaha 680]

Folks, remember back during the first Obama campaign when Palin burst onto the scene. She stood there, looked fairly attractive, had a lot of energy, didn't trip as she crossed the stage, was a governor. We all thought, "Awesome. How can this go wrong?" Then time passed. The same thing is happening with Cruz. There are just some people you shouldn't trust to drive your car. Palin because she would get lost, bring it back late all cluttered with McDo garbage and animal crackers, and the the fuel gauge on E. Cruz because he'd total it and just walk away.

They're both dumb. Yes, a different kind of dumb, but dumb nonetheless.

[Uncle Ted]

Folks, remember back during the first Obama campaign when Palin burst onto the scene. She stood there, looked fairly attractive, had a lot of energy, didn't trip as she crossed the stage, was a governor. We all thought, "Awesome. How can this go wrong?" Then time passed. The same thing is happening with Cruz. There are just some people you shouldn't trust to drive your car. Palin because she would get lost, bring it back late all cluttered with McDo garbage and animal crackers, and the the fuel gauge on E. Cruz because he'd total it and just walk away.

They're both dumb. Yes, a different kind of dumb, but dumb nonetheless.

Yeah, I am guessing that E. Cruz f'ing loves science... They must be a bunch of chemistry book thumbing nerds:

Eureka! Tea partiers know science

A finding in a study on the relationship between science literacy and political ideology surprised the Yale professor behind it: Tea party members know more science than non-tea partiers.
Yale law professor Dan Kahan posted on his blog this week that he analyzed the responses of more than 2,000 American adults recruited for another study and found that, on average, people who leaned liberal were more science literate than those who leaned conservative.

However, those who identified as part of the tea party movement were actually better versed in science than those who didn’t, Kahan found. The findings met the conventional threshold of statistical significance, the professor said.
[...]

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...#ixzz2i51TDEYY




And rich, educated, spoiled brats...

Poll Finds Tea Party Backers Wealthier and More Educated

Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower socioeconomic class, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
[...]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us...oll.html?_r=1&

Dumb tea partiers.

Wait, there is hope for them...

Their responses are like the general public’s in many ways. Most describe the amount they paid in taxes this year as “fair.” Most send their children to public schools. A plurality do not think Sarah Palin is qualified to be president, and, despite their push for smaller government, they think that Social Security and Medicare are worth the cost to taxpayers. They actually are just as likely as Americans as a whole to have returned their census forms, though some conservative leaders have urged a boycott.

[Jacob]

They are smart enough to fool people like you into thinking they actually stand for something ... only to cave like everyone else knew they would when crunch time came. They are shysters who care no more about accurately interpreting the Constitution than Fidel Castro. All they care about is raising money for reelection and are willing to engage in brinksmanship, putting the credibility of our country at risk, in order to do so. It's time to wake up and stop letting these fraudsters pull a fast one on you.

"Ideology" and "ideologues" are cancer to governing in a democracy. Ideology is inflexible, irrational, and impracticable. Ideology is fine in the context of religion, but in the hands of a politician (who is by definition insincere), it becomes nothing more than demagoguery and cheap populism. Good politicians have principles, not dogmatic ideologies.

Lol.

[il Padrino Ute]

Yeah, I am guessing that E. Cruz f'ing loves science... They must be a bunch of chemistry book thumbing nerds:


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...#ixzz2i51TDEYY




And rich, educated, spoiled brats...


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us...oll.html?_r=1&

Dumb tea partiers.

Wait, there is hope for them...

How can this be? The Obama worshipers in the media tell us the Tea Party folks are backwater hicks who don't know their heads from a hole in the ground.

[Uncle Ted]

How can this be? The Obama worshipers in the media tell us the Tea Party folks are backwater hicks who don't know their heads from a hole in the ground.

He may be somewhat right. They may be backwater hicks but may be highly educated and rich. As for not knowing their heads from a hole in the ground I know some highly educated people like that.

[venkman]

It wasn't even a Hail Mary. There was a zero-percent chance of success. Why would you applaud such a blatant attempt at self-aggrandizement at the expense of our credibility in the world?

I don't see it that way. Tell me, what should the GOP strategy be? Near as I can tell, it's capitulation and prayer.

[imanihonjin]

I don't see it that way. Tell me, what should the GOP strategy be? Near as I can tell, it's capitulation and prayer.

Fiscal responsibility. I get that is one of the main concerns with Obamacare. However, don't start the fight with wanting to shut down one program, instead lump that program with all of the other wasteful, highly ineffective, and wildly expensive crap programs in the federal government in making an argument about cutting spending and getting our debt under control.

[Jacob]

Fiscal responsibility. I get that is one of the main concerns with Obamacare. However, don't start the fight with wanting to shut down one program, instead lump that program with all of the other wasteful, highly ineffective, and wildly expensive crap programs in the federal government in making an argument about cutting spending and getting our debt under control.

That's not a strategy.

Also, what you seem to favor is the same thing the Republicans have allegedly stood for for decades. But they've not had any success in reducing spending and getting debt under control.

[UVACoug]

I don't see it that way. Tell me, what should the GOP strategy be? Near as I can tell, it's capitulation and prayer.

The GOP strategy should be to win elections and repeal Obamacare, cut spending, and reform transfer payment programs. Everything they are currently doing (and have been doing for the last 6-8 years) is counterproductive to winning elections, which is the ONLY way for them to accomplish anything. Elections matter. Trying to blackmail Obama into repealing his flagship social program is asinine and purely a stunt to raise money off of.

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[Moliere]

The GOP strategy should be to win elections and repeal Obamacare, cut spending, and reform transfer payment programs. Everything they are currently doing (and have been doing for the last 6-8 years) is counterproductive to winning elections, which is the ONLY way for them to accomplish anything. Elections matter. Trying to blackmail Obama into repealing his flagship social program is asinine and purely a stunt to raise money off of.

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[Moliere]

Oh, and they should quiet down the social conservative talk as they honestly are just losing ground in that battle as well.

[Omaha 680]

The GOP strategy should be to win elections and repeal Obamacare, cut spending, and reform transfer payment programs. Everything they are currently doing (and have been doing for the last 6-8 years) is counterproductive to winning elections, which is the ONLY way for them to accomplish anything. Elections matter. Trying to blackmail Obama into repealing his flagship social program is asinine and purely a stunt to raise money off of.

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Absolutely correct. When you are out of power, you work on the parts of your agenda for which there is widespread support. Obamacare is unpopular and may yet collapse under it's own weight, but there is not a groundswell to dismantle it yet. There IS widespread support for spending cuts and entitlement reform. Republicans had a chance to tie the debt ceiling to spending in general again, and they screwed the pooch by tying it to Obamacare instead.