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  • #9001
    Originally posted by Moliere View Post


    Which is why I'm not voting for her.


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    We have two extraordinarily flawed candidates.

    In Trump, we have a seriously flawed individual who has staked a few appropriate policy positions.

    In Hillary, we have a flawed individual, who is less personally flawed and more polished than Trump (who isn't?), but she has staked no appropriate policy positions. As one person trying to endorse her stated, "she is wrong on everything."

    Given that you wish to have policy positions which will be enforced by somebody other than the President, it is time to vote for Gary Johnson, who can't name a foreign leader.
    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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    • #9002
      Originally posted by Topper View Post
      We have two extraordinarily flawed candidates.

      In Trump, we have a seriously flawed individual who has staked a few appropriate policy positions.

      In Hillary, we have a flawed individual, who is less personally flawed and more polished than Trump (who isn't?), but she has staked no appropriate policy positions. As one person trying to endorse her stated, "she is wrong on everything."

      Given that you wish to have policy positions which will be enforced by somebody other than the President, it is time to vote for Gary Johnson, who can't name a foreign leader.
      Gary Johnson is much more appealing to me than Clinton. Obama has pretty much shown that you can have very little real world experience and still not totally mess up the country. I'm sure Johnson would do just fine and he'd probably appoint a half-decent secretary of state, unlike Obama's first appointment to that position.

      If our republic dies, it'll be because of corruption. Corruption undermines everything that has to do with a government run by "We the People" and Clinton is the embodiment of corruption. She is the pay-to-play candidate if there ever was one. I'll take Johnson's lack of foreign policy experience over her corruption any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • #9003
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        Gary Johnson is much more appealing to me than Clinton. Obama has pretty much shown that you can have very little real world experience and still not totally mess up the country. I'm sure Johnson would do just fine and he'd probably appoint a half-decent secretary of state, unlike Obama's first appointment to that position.

        If our republic dies, it'll be because of corruption. Corruption undermines everything that has to do with a government run by "We the People" and Clinton is the embodiment of corruption. She is the pay-to-play candidate if there ever was one. I'll take Johnson's lack of foreign policy experience over her corruption any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
        come on, you can't compare obama to gary johnson who is an embarrassing beta dork.
        Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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        • #9004
          Originally posted by creekster View Post
          I really have no idea about the Chelsea Hubbell thing, but these photos were so disturbing (not Dabrackster "I didnt watch the video" disturbing, but still...) that I knew immediately I had to post them here:

          they come from this article, which has some others that you, loyal posters, might find interesting.

          http://blackbag.gawker.com/is-this-c...her-1780376180
          Wow. What a sleazy article.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • #9005
            Originally posted by Topper View Post
            We have two extraordinarily flawed candidates.

            In Trump, we have a seriously flawed individual who has staked a few appropriate policy positions.
            I hate to ask (because, topper) but what are trumps appropriate policy positions?

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            • #9006
              Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
              come on, you can't compare obama to gary johnson who is an embarrassing beta dork.
              Right, Johnson has actually been a successful executive before running for president.

              Watching the VP debate, I didn't know that Kaine is so whiny. It's almost like Kaine is like Trump and Pence is like Clinton.

              FTR, Kaine is an idiot on tax law...or he's playing to the public's ignorance on tax law (it's probably the latter). Does anyone in this board think that net operating losses shouldn't be allowed to be carried forward?


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              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • #9007
                It is fun to see Pence hold his breath while he talks about Trump. Dude clearly isn't comfortable defending him but he's holding the party line.


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                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • #9008
                  Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                  I hate to ask (because, topper) but what are trumps appropriate policy positions?
                  Lower taxes, better judicial appointments, lesser regulation of businesses. I didn't say he had a lot of good policy positions. Hillary has none. Three is better than zero.

                  Johnson has a few more, but his policy flawed but apparently not personally as flawed as those two crazies.
                  "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                  Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                  • #9009
                    Amusing.

                    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-37507542
                    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                    • #9010
                      Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                      Gary Johnson is much more appealing to me than Clinton. Obama has pretty much shown that you can have very little real world experience and still not totally mess up the country. I'm sure Johnson would do just fine and he'd probably appoint a half-decent secretary of state, unlike Obama's first appointment to that position.

                      If our republic dies, it'll be because of corruption. Corruption undermines everything that has to do with a government run by "We the People" and Clinton is the embodiment of corruption. She is the pay-to-play candidate if there ever was one. I'll take Johnson's lack of foreign policy experience over her corruption any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
                      I agree I would trust Gary Johnson to not screw it up too badly.

                      Hillary will continue the trend toward statism, eliminating small businesses and creating barriers to entry to promote large business. She will increase taxes, the burdens upon the state and our national debt.

                      Trump will only do okay if he appoints good advisors.
                      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                      • #9011
                        Originally posted by Topper View Post
                        I agree I would trust Gary Johnson to not screw it up too badly.

                        Hillary will continue the trend toward statism, eliminating small businesses and creating barriers to entry to promote large business. She will increase taxes, the burdens upon the state and our national debt.

                        Trump will only do okay if he appoints good advisors.
                        Clinton most certainly will kill small businesses if she is against NOL carry forwards.


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                        • #9012
                          Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                          Clinton most certainly will kill small businesses if she is against NOL carry forwards.


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                          Agreed. I love NOLs.
                          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                          • #9013
                            Wow, Pence is wiping the floor with Kaine. This is ugly. Kaine's only rebuttal is to complain about trumps taxes or trumps praising of putin.


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                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                            • #9014
                              Did Kaine watch tapes of Rubio to prepare for this debate? He's said, word for word, the same things 4-5 times.


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                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • #9015
                                lol, CNN opts for a focus group from Richmond, VA.

                                Who cares. George Will is correct. Elections don't turn based on a VP candidate.
                                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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