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  • Utah Is 2016's Strangest Swing State

    But the politics of Utah aren’t really about numbers. As Mueller put it, “Utah is a symbol for America.” Both candidates have earned historically low approval ratings this election cycle. A significant portion of voters seem to be dissatisfied by their options, perhaps alienated by what they see as rampant dishonesty and bigotry in the campaigns. The Mormons of Utah offer a chance at redemption in a year of American self-disgust. Their votes might not bring candidates victory, but at least they will offer some comfort that the real America was on their side.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
      Great article.

      In an election that has defied conventional wisdom, Utah has become a symbol of conventional American identity: religiously conservative, family-oriented, and equally committed to traditional American values and freedom for minority groups. While winning the state won’t help either major-party nominee—let alone McMullin—win the White House, the candidates are after moral rather than electoral victory out west. Utah’s Mormon voters are a near-perfect symbol of conservative American patriotism. And that’s an association both major-party candidates are hungry to win.
      “They have, in some ways, become the stand-ins for Americans, and especially white, traditional, ‘values’ Americans,” said Mueller. This may be why the “problem in Utah” seems to bother Trump more than, say, the fact that his support is slipping in deep-red Georgia. “He viscerally gets that the fact that the Mormons aren’t lining up behind him. He feels [this] represents that he isn’t tapping into something that is true about America,” Mueller said.
      Choke on it, SU.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • All the creepiness of Cruz combined with the disingenuousness of Hillary.
          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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          • I saw a billboard for Gary Johnson along the freeway in St. George. It just had his picture and said "The Sanest Candidate for President." Lol.
            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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            • Just got a recorded call from Drumpf. The caller ID said it was from Waterloo. Appropriate?
              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
              - Goatnapper'96

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              • "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • I hear she is in really poor health.

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                  • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                    I hear she is in really poor health.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                      Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                      I hear she is in really poor health.
                      CNN just showed a clip of her on her campaign plane and she had to escape to the front of the plane because of another hacking attack. Must be suffering from an upper respiratory thing.
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                        I hear she is in really poor health.
                        All the more reason to vote for her. Tim Kaine seems like a decent, level headed guy.

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                        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                          All the more reason to vote for her. Tim Kaine seems like a decent, level headed guy.
                          If we are voting for VP's, Pence is far superior to Tim Kaine. I'm sure you would agree and think that is something we both can agree on in this thread.

                          We can both also agree Kaine would be better than Trump or Hillary.

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                          • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                            If we are voting for VP's, Pence is far superior to Tim Kaine. I'm sure you would agree and think that is something we both can agree on in this thread.

                            We can both also agree Kaine would be better than Trump or Hillary.

                            Unfortunately though, Donald Trump would be the healthiest individual ever elected president so...

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                            • Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                              Unfortunately though, Donald Trump would be the healthiest individual ever elected president so...
                              According to most on this board, he would be found to be mentally incompetent and therefor could not continue in office.

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                              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                                WTF?
                                I'm like LeBron James.
                                -mpfunk

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